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Old 11-06-2014, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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How can anyone read these words and try to justify homosexuality and not rightfully condemn it not only as not being Christian but not a practice that any human being anywhere should engage in because of all the evil consequences it brings on the land and the inhabitants? How?

And this is God speaking through the Word, the Spokesman, who later became Jesus Christ saying that if men have sex with other men then because of this and other abominations listed above the land will become defiled and the land itself will vomit you out. Think about the land we live in today. Vomited out of our own land.

It is time people who are suppose to be lights start exposing this sin of homosexuality and quit hunkering down and accepting these works of darkness. You are to abhor this evil and homosexuality is an abominatble sin that will cause the inhabitants of the land to be vomited out.

tthttf
I'm sorry, but will you please show JUST ONE CONSEQUENCE this nation is suffering because of same sex marriage? I've asked before. You don't reply because there isn't one.

Now for divorce there is a plethora of factual, quantifiable evidence as to what it has and is doing to this nation. I've provided those for you.

You are the coward because you won't respond with verifiable data about how homosexuality is bringing evil consequences on the land. You just continue to spout off how your sensibilities are hurt.

Guess what? Nobody gives a rip about your sensibilities. They are ungodly, condemning, and hateful of people who need love and acceptance as much as you do. But I think you won't find it on CD. Now there are some places in backwoods Alabama (my home state) where you will find some who hold your diatribe to be holy. And backwoods is where it belongs.

 
Old 11-06-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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How can anyone read these words and try to justify homosexuality and not rightfully condemn it not only as not being Christian but not a practice that any human being anywhere should engage in because of all the evil consequences it brings on the land and the inhabitants? How?



tthttf
Can you name 3 evil consequences it brings on the land and the inhabitants? Please do not use quotes from the Bible as your source. Thank you.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 10:59 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Can you name 3 evil consequences it brings on the land and the inhabitants? Please do not use quotes from the Bible as your source. Thank you.
Any bets all you will get is....

Crickets.
 
Old 11-06-2014, 11:55 PM
 
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Ironically, countries where homosexuality is not a taboo and is widely accepted and embraced are generally more peaceful and make no big deal out of it. On the other hand, religiously rigid countries where homophobia is the law are generally more violent and don't even hesitate in taking someone's life just for loving someone of the same sex.

Just have a look at Uganda.
Ugandans say they love Christ but have no compassion for their homosexual and bisexual brothers and sisters. How is that godly love?
 
Old 11-07-2014, 12:41 AM
 
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If you are suggesting that the sin of Sodom was rape then you have no proof for that position other than your claim that it was a cultural norm. Plus this position faces the problem of Jude 1:7 which specifically says that sexual immorality and perversion was going on in the city.
I've already addressed this. No, the 'sin of Sodom' was not specifically rape. It was idolatry, arrogance, pride, gluttony and lack of concern for the poor and needy, and inhospitality towards strangers - (abominable treatment of strangers would include rape to dominate and humiliate them).

Why do you automatically assume Jude 1:7 was referring to homosexuality? It doesn't mention homosexuality at all.

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Old 11-07-2014, 12:51 AM
 
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Obviously better than you since you ignore scriptures like Jude 1:7.






So it's not possible that the sin was both in hospitality and homosexuality?





Apologetics Press - Sodom--Inhospitality or Homosexuality?
Once again. Male rape is not homosexuality. It's rape. Most male rape is perpetrated by heterosexual men, not gay men.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 12:56 AM
 
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Lol so I am to believe that the latest fad back in those days was angel sex? You have ZERO proof that strange flesh means angels. It can mean something that is unnatural which would be homosexuality. And let's not forget that the men of Sodom were already judged before the angels arrived at Lot's house.

And Something that other cities were doing as well? That makes absolutely no sense in the cultural context. Just another desperate attempt to distort the truth.
The Greek words translated as 'different flesh' or 'strange flesh' were "hetera sarkos". Hetera, meaning 'different'. Not homo - meaning 'same'. It doesn't mean 'unnatural'.


It wasn't just the men of Sodom who were already judged, it was ALL it's inhabitants. You have been shown the biblical verses over and over about the 'sins of Sodom'.


Have you never read the story of the Levite stranger in Judges 19? The townsmen threatened to rape him, but they ended up gang raping his concubine all night. His female concubine.

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Old 11-07-2014, 01:29 AM
 
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Gang rape is a not about sexual pleasure; gang rape is about humiliation. The gratification for them comes from humiliating someone through forced sex.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 01:30 AM
 
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Nothing you say here takes away from the fact that every one of these ancient enemies of Israel was wiped out. The Persian empire only lasted about 200 years. By contrast, the Ottoman and Khmer empires lasted well over 600 years. The pattern stands throughout history. You mess with God's people, you get crushed.
What a simplistic socio economic view of religion you have. You are assuming a whole lot from mere correlation.

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Classic atheist hit and run statement which in no way refutes my valid point.
Given the number of posts from me you have ignored and dodged on this thread and others, you are the last person with a warrant to be accusing others of hit and run.

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Homosexuality is sexual immorality.
Because you say so? Or do you have even the remotest argument to even begin to support such a contention? Or is it all just more of your vicarious condemnation with your "awww shuck dont shoot the messenger" delivery?

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The Christianity I serve has seen drug addicts come to the altar with the needles and become new creatures in Christ.
The same can be said of Hamass and Louis Farrakan. So what is your point?
 
Old 11-07-2014, 06:46 AM
 
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Can you name 3 evil consequences it brings on the land and the inhabitants? Please do not use quotes from the Bible as your source. Thank you.
I went to the effort of producing hardcore facts from the CDC showing that homosexuality is a leading cause for the spread of STDS, and of course, it was brushed off. That's a pretty serious consequence.
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