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Do you understand what an opinion is? There is no Biblical reference for my opinion, because well, it's my opinion. It's an observation that I have made. There are people who do not believe in the Bible who have responded and agree that my point has validity. This isn't about the Bible, this is about an observation.
So, this is an exercise for a school project. Your christian opinions are not based on biblical knowledge
Interesting for a man who approaches total strangers to evangelize, has yet to give biblical verse or parable.
I'm thinking sociology experiment? You probably did the whole free hug thing, or take a can. The internet makes it easy for other kinds of engagement for school projects.
Here, allow me to assist you in a biblical reference as you seem to be adrift.
Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices -- --- Colossians
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You are making my point. This doesn't necessary mean that Christianity is flawed, it means that these people are incapable of following clear teaching. You even said it yourself, that Jesus taught against those things, so if people actions aren't consistent with the teachings, then who fault is that? Is that the teaching that is flawed or the people?
That's right. humans are not "flawed", they are human. For me, I always go to a person. "things" are not accountable, people are. As long as people blame things like fire, cars, and religion the true problems will never be solved.
The other major mistake people make is not trying to look from any other perspective then from earth's surface. The average iq is around 105. "earth bound 105's", yep they know all right. Literalist can't think any different than a horse can think what it means to be a cat. People blame "things" because they think that what they "see" is all there is.
Interesting for a man who approaches total strangers to evangelize, has yet to give biblical verse or parable.
I'm thinking sociology experiment? You probably did the whole free hug thing, or take a can. The internet makes it easy for other kinds of engagement for school projects.
Here, allow me to assist you in a biblical reference as you seem to be adrift.
Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices -- --- Colossians
That's right. humans are not "flawed", they are human. For me, I always go to a person. "things" are not accountable, people are. As long as people blame things like fire, cars, and religion the true problems will never be solved.
The other major mistake people make is not trying to look from any other perspective then from earth's surface. The average iq is around 105. "earth bound 105's", yep they know all right. Literalist can't think any different than a horse can think what it means to be a cat. People blame "things" because they think that what they "see" is all there is.
Well that's just the thing, if you have been taught that a certain religion, like Christianity, is wrong and the things they do are evil then that's your perspective. These same individuals may not have seen good examples of what Christians are supposed to be either. So their idea of what it is, is also going to be limited to what they see.
Seems to me the common flawed arguement against Christianity is the exact same one that Christians use against non believers or people from other religions. Islamic extremists, Stalin and Mao are examples of people behaving rather badly that some Christians have used to show that Islam is a violent terrible religion or that atheists are immoral. Read the Islam forum for examples and some of the posts I have read in other atheists forums.
It is not a flawed arguement or I guess counter arguement, when the Christian (or Muslim or atheist) is claiming that their belief or lack of belief is morally better and uses the actions of members of their group behaving exceptionally well to prove it. For that purpose of a counter arguement it is valid IMHO.
In summary some people from all groups use it against those they disagre with, and wrong as it may be, it is not exclusively used against Christians. You may only notice it more due to your being a Christian.
Seems to me the common flawed arguement against Christianity is the exact same one that Christians use against non believers or people from other religions. Islamic extremists, Stalin and Mao are examples of people behaving rather badly that some Christians have used to show that Islam is a violent terrible religion or that atheists are immoral. Read the Islam forum for examples and some of the posts I have read in other atheists forums.
It is not a flawed arguement or I guess counter arguement, when the Christian (or Muslim or atheist) is claiming that their belief or lack of belief is morally better and uses the actions of members of their group behaving exceptionally well to prove it. For that purpose of a counter arguement it is valid IMHO.
In summary some people from all groups use it against those they disagre with, and wrong as it may be, it is not exclusively used against Christians. You may only notice it more due to your being a Christian.
I never suggested that it was. Look at the language that I used in my OP:
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I rarely hear that argument for what others belief systems [are], only for the belief system they disagree with.
Isn't that essentially what you said here?
And the problem with your first point is again, you are using a select group of individuals to prove a point. It doesn't address Christianity, it just addresses the people who claim it.
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