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Old 03-17-2015, 09:14 AM
 
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yes, think our friend is the very quintessence and definition of "persistent" for sure, LOL.

interestingly questions and it will be fun to see what his answer(s) might be. FWIW, my take is that ANY of those scenarios MIGHT happen according to God's will and plan at a particular time (the bible seems to have a fair number of similar situations where the "good guys" were saved from apparently impossible straits--from the red sea parting to let the children of Israel escape from Egypt to the three young men surviving the fiery furnace, and yes, even Jesus rising from the dead---they are often called "miracles") BUT think most probably some variant of 7 or 8 is most likely.
yeah he's a thinking man alright. Like 25 watt light bulb is illuminating.
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:42 AM
 
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So this is your other "obvious" solution? Give the men a conscience (I'm guessing "conscious" was a typo). What does that really mean to you? Does having a conscience mean never doing anything you know to be wrong? Does it mean being incapable of doing wrong? Or does it mean that the opportunity never presents itself to do wrong? .
If one just stuck to the two commandments, no anthropomorphized, invisible, omnipotent entity is required.

These two commandments, which you may have seen before:



They pretty well cover it

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For what it's worth, I think Epicurus' opinion on the subject is way, way over-rated -- primarily because it grossly oversimplifies the problem of good and evil.
Combine them with the above two commandments, and it all ties together, right?
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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If one just stuck to the two commandments, no anthropomorphized, invisible, omnipotent entity is required.

These two commandments, which you may have seen before: They pretty well cover it

Combine them with the above two commandments, and it all ties together, right?
If everybody obeyed those two commandments, this world would be a much better place. Should we be forced to obey them? Should there be no potential for harm to someone else? (That would solve the problem, no?)
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:19 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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If everybody obeyed those two commandments, this world would be a much better place. Should we be forced to obey them? Should there be no potential for harm to someone else? (That would solve the problem, no?)
There in lies the problem. Although as a society we can strongly endorse those, the problem is as you're well aware, no matter where, there will be people who break them. Even a utopia such as Signapore has criminals.
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