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Old 03-25-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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The only paper I'm aware of from him (Mutagenesis in Physalis pubescens L. ssp. floridana) was published in an obscure journal (Floriculture and Ornamental Biotechnology), mentioned ID as just one hypothesis, and hardly discusses ID (so the paper is hardly pro ID). The paper does link to many pro-ID references, including papers by people such as Behe, Dembski and Meyer, which suggests the reviewers of the paper did not do a good job of peer review.
I gave the name of his book in English though it is only available in German. Facts are what is important not what some believe. He gave the facts and more and more Biologists and geneticists see it as well. It eliminates Evolution from the equation. Hard for believers in the Evolution faith to accept, but pure science.

Unser Haushund: Eine Spitzmaus im Wolfspelz?: Oder beweisen die Hunderassen, dass der Mensch von Bakterien abstammt?: Amazon.de: Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig: Bücher

He has written several books on genetics and evolution.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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The title "Intelligent Design theorists" skews the question, Eusebius because they are part of an established fraud exposed at Dover. The Intelligent Design Institute and Creationists were shown to be religious groups pretending to be objective scientists. Unfortunately, those religious groups tend to mistakenly believe that evolution is anti-God. It is NOT . . . but they know so little about it . . . they cannot be reasoned with.
Interesting that Antony Flew sided with the Intelligent Design theorists and he was not a Christian.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I gave the name of his book in English though it is only available in German. Facts are what is important not what some believe. He gave the facts and more and more Biologists and geneticists see it as well. It eliminates Evolution from the equation. Hard for believers in the Evolution faith to accept, but pure science.

Unser Haushund: Eine Spitzmaus im Wolfspelz?: Oder beweisen die Hunderassen, dass der Mensch von Bakterien abstammt?: Amazon.de: Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig: Bücher

He has written several books on genetics and evolution.

Nur auf Deutsch? Genau das ist ... schade.

(Not to mention, convenient.)
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:57 PM
 
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why they don't use evolution to support their god claim I'll never know.
Me either!
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Old 03-25-2015, 09:07 PM
 
Location: USA
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There is nothing new here. This is just the Fallacy of the Ages on full display yet again: I don't understand X, therefore MY god did it.

It's a non-sequitur. Ignorance is not evidence for the existence of any god, much less a specific god like the Christian God or Muslim God.
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Old 03-26-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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Eusebius is at it again !
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Old 03-26-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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There is nothing new here. This is just the Fallacy of the Ages on full display yet again: I don't understand X, therefore MY god did it.

It's a non-sequitur. Ignorance is not evidence for the existence of any god, much less a specific god like the Christian God or Muslim God.
this is a half truth. Our leaders kill our kids over half truth.
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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Every find of science supports ID.
Such as what?

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No true transition from-to anything has been found, EVERY find is complete and fully functional.
Errr yes, that is what evolution claims. There is no expectation for us to find a not fully functional fossil. And in fact we are rife with transitional forms despite your claim we are not. The evolutionary Pathway of the Whale for example shows this.

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DNA proves Evolution as popularly believed and taught is not possible.
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DNA shows structure and design that requires a designer.
Quite the assertion, but assertion appears to be all it is. You have certainly not substantiated this sentence in any way I have seen. And the sentence appears to the core of everything else you have written on the thread. So it bears substantiating. Perhaps you mean to get around to it?
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:39 AM
 
Location: georgia
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He "flew" away!
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:28 AM
 
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He "flew" away!
bull sit-ups fly .... yeah whoooo! I am saved!!!! I knew it would some day,
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