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As a Christian... and my opinion of what God thinks about gay marriage is; we must not redefine His nature and say... this is good. His plan for marriage has a historical template. Why would marriage now have an expanded understanding? and redefined to include marriage of same genders? To me marriage is equal to math by definition... and we can not change the sum of two numbers, so In the same way, I believe God would want marriage to be defined as between a Man and a Woman and not have this changed. Certainly there have been variations on marriage... many wives for a husband so I guess it's OK for many husbands for a wife.
If God took a position ( court room) I believe it would be support for traditional marriage. Believing and support something does equal condemnation. He saw man and woman and said; "this is good".
A child does not die for the sins of their parents, nor does anyone die for another's sin...
The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.----EZEKIEL 18:20
Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.----DEUTERONOMY 24:16
The Bible is clear, and it is consistent: one person cannot die for the sins of another. In other words, the sins committed by one person cannot be wiped out by the punishment given to another. In Exodus 32:30-35, Moses asks Gd to punish him for the sin committed by the people in regards to the Golden Calf. Gd tells Moses that the person who committed the sin is the one who must receive the punishment. Then, in Deuteronomy 24:16, Gd simply states this as a basic principle, 'Every man shall be put to death for his own sin.' This concept is repeated in the Prophets, in Ezekiel 18: 'The soul that sinneth, it shall die... the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.' The prophet Jeremiah looks to the day when the mistaken belief that one man's death atones for another man's sins shall no longer be held by anyone: in Jeremiah 31:29-30, the prophet says: 'In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.'
Jesus did not have to speak on homosexuality because they all knew it was a sin, as defined in the Torah, which Jesus taught from and they followed. Its kinda like a STOP sign obviously means STOP to us, so there is no need for someone to come along and define and talk about something we already know the meaning of. They knew homosexuality was sexual immorality.
Jesus did not have to speak on homosexuality because they all knew it was a sin, as defined in the Torah, which Jesus taught from and they followed. Its kinda like a STOP sign obviously means STOP to us, so there is no need for someone to come along and define and talk about something we already know the meaning of. They knew homosexuality was sexual immorality.
You really do make this up as you go, right??
You are saying that Jesus NEVER had the opportunity to interact with homosexuals? Of all the people Jesus saw, hung out with and broke bread with NONE were homosexuals? Jesus NEVER had an occasion to say--LOOK AT THOSE TWO EUNUCHS, THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS IMMORAL...NOW THEY SHALL GO AND SIN NO MORE!!
Jesus mainly went into detail and addressed certain sins when it was brought to him by the Pharisees to trap him, and he would then clarify it to them and explain the meaning.
Jesus didnt address many topics, but that doesnt mean they are okay
-Incest & Bestiality (Lev 18)
-Having sex with women on their cycle
-Child Abuse
-Rape
Does this now make them all okay simply because Jesus didnt talk about it
You are saying that Jesus NEVER had the opportunity to interact with homosexuals? Of all the people Jesus saw, hung out with and broke bread with NONE were homosexuals? Jesus NEVER had an occasion to say--LOOK AT THOSE TWO EUNUCHS, THEIR RELATIONSHIP IS IMMORAL...NOW THEY SHALL GO AND SIN NO MORE!!
Jesus didnt have to speak about homosexuality, because it was an abomination and detestable. They still have to repent from their sexual immorality the same way heterosexual have to repent from sexual immortality.
You keep trying to find loopholes, but the bible speaks for itself on the issue.
Jesus mainly went into detail and addressed certain sins when it was brought to him by the Pharisees to trap him, and he would then clarify it to them and explain the meaning.
Jesus didnt address many topics, but that doesnt mean they are okay
-Incest & Bestiality (Lev 18)
-Having sex with women on their cycle
-Child Abuse
-Rape
Does this now make them all okay simply because Jesus didnt talk about it
I though the 613 Laws did not apply to us today? How many are still valid?
Deuteronomy says RAPE is OK---
Deuteronomy Chapter 22
28 If a man find a damsel [that is] a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty [shekels] of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
The woman HAS to MARRY HER RAPIST
Deuteronomy Chapter 21
10 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
14 And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14 ESV
“When you draw near to a city to fight against it, offer terms of peace to it. And if it responds to you peaceably and it opens to you, then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you, but makes war against you, then you shall besiege it. And when the Lord your God gives it into your hand, you shall put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the livestock, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take as plunder for yourselves. And you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies, which the Lord your God has given you.
I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
As a pastor, you are aware that the question posed before this answer was about divorce not marriage. The pharisees were testing him about his understanding of the scriptures.
Did he answer a question about who should be married? NO.
In fact, if God joins two people then it is not a matter of whether a ceremony is performed. What happens between God and men/women is between them. If two people love each other, whether heterosexual or homosexual, their being joined by God is impossible to judge by another.
He said that God designed marriage as a man and a woman and joined them together. Did you catch that? He didn't suggest that marriage is anything we want it to be.
That's not convincing. I don't know you and therefore can't trust what you say. Do you have anything else?
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