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Corrupt text alert! This is NOT what 1 Corinthians 6:9 states!
Other than my 'corrupt text alert', the rest of that post is little other than a load of doggy doo-doo and not worthy of any further response from me.
Every once in a while, he becomes constipated with bible thoughts and when the build-up becomes near-unbearable he unloads from the rectum, I mean rectory...I mean choir loft.
I've learned to read his posts while standing well off to one side.
Corrupt text alert! This is NOT what 1 Corinthians 6:9 states!
Other than my 'corrupt text alert', the rest of that post is little other than a load of doggy doo-doo and not worthy of any further response from me.
Once someone starts using terms like "sex pits of gay lifestyle" ....it's obvious they've fallen into the Fundamentalist Cliche Trap and it's hard to keep reading.
I am gay-- in my mid-50's. Grew up in a Christian home, led by a naive mother and grandmother. On top of that, I'm the oldest sibling-- the only male--meaning I was held to very high standards.
In my family back in the 70's, having a gay son/grandson was incomprehensible. Consequently, at age 17 I was grappling with my sexuality and fear of being rejected not only by my family, but also God. Maybe I'm tougher than most (not bragging), but it didn't take long for me to get royally angry over why everything good about me was automatically void just because I'm gay.
Anger fueled the bravery it took (yes bravery) , at age 18, shortly after my beloved grandmother's passing and graduation, to tell my mother point-blank that I'm gay. Thankfully I prepared for the worst because the worst is what I got. Within the year I was stripped of all rank--humiliated at times-- and lived until recently as the family outcast.
For a few years, I thought about Christianity, but it didn't take me long to realize that Christianity did not do me wrong, people did. Christian leaders misrepresented Christianity and God, and families all over the world bought it lock, stock and barrel. (Imagine, the Christian guy who beat his family was on a higher level that gay-me who despises violence. It didn't make sense).
Christianity, like other religions, is about standing by your beliefs when you are outnumbered. So, instead of abandoning God I kept Him close and try to live out my life as peaceful as possible. Being a gay Christian is difficult because I'm a rare breed in both the gay and straight worlds. ....gays and straights can be quite judgmental, so I've learned to be a good loner.
I am gay-- in my mid-50's. Grew up in a Christian home, led by a naive mother and grandmother. On top of that, I'm the oldest sibling-- the only male--meaning I was held to very high standards.
In my family back in the 70's, having a gay son/grandson was incomprehensible. Consequently, at age 17 I was grappling with my sexuality and fear of being rejected not only by my family, but also God. Maybe I'm tougher than most (not bragging), but it didn't take long for me to get royally angry over why everything good about me was automatically void just because I'm gay.
Anger fueled the bravery it took (yes bravery) , at age 18, shortly after my beloved grandmother's passing and graduation, to tell my mother point-blank that I'm gay. Thankfully I prepared for the worst because the worst is what I got. Within the year I was stripped of all rank--humiliated at times-- and lived until recently as the family outcast.
For a few years, I thought about Christianity, but it didn't take me long to realize that Christianity did not do me wrong, people did. Christian leaders misrepresented Christianity and God, and families all over the world bought it lock, stock and barrel. (Imagine, the Christian guy who beat his family was on a higher level that gay-me who despises violence. It didn't make sense).
Christianity, like other religions, is about standing by your beliefs when you are outnumbered. So, instead of abandoning God I kept Him close and try to live out my life as peaceful as possible. Being a gay Christian is difficult because I'm a rare breed in both the gay and straight worlds. ....gays and straights can be quite judgmental, so I've learned to be a good loner.
What a good thread.
What a great post!
WELCOME to C-D.
I for one am so thrilled you refused to sell, refused to hide and instead held fast to your beliefs and the person you were born to be.
Whether it be christianity, Islam or hindu, people have done a very good job of twisting religion to fit a personal agenda and it always seems to be EXCLUSIONARY--when it ought to be INCLUSIONARY of ALL people--regardless of status or differences.
I am gay-- in my mid-50's. Grew up in a Christian home, led by a naive mother and grandmother. On top of that, I'm the oldest sibling-- the only male--meaning I was held to very high standards.
In my family back in the 70's, having a gay son/grandson was incomprehensible. Consequently, at age 17 I was grappling with my sexuality and fear of being rejected not only by my family, but also God. Maybe I'm tougher than most (not bragging), but it didn't take long for me to get royally angry over why everything good about me was automatically void just because I'm gay.
Anger fueled the bravery it took (yes bravery) , at age 18, shortly after my beloved grandmother's passing and graduation, to tell my mother point-blank that I'm gay. Thankfully I prepared for the worst because the worst is what I got. Within the year I was stripped of all rank--humiliated at times-- and lived until recently as the family outcast.
For a few years, I thought about Christianity, but it didn't take me long to realize that Christianity did not do me wrong, people did. Christian leaders misrepresented Christianity and God, and families all over the world bought it lock, stock and barrel. (Imagine, the Christian guy who beat his family was on a higher level that gay-me who despises violence. It didn't make sense).
Christianity, like other religions, is about standing by your beliefs when you are outnumbered. So, instead of abandoning God I kept Him close and try to live out my life as peaceful as possible. Being a gay Christian is difficult because I'm a rare breed in both the gay and straight worlds. ....gays and straights can be quite judgmental, so I've learned to be a good loner.
What a good thread.
Good post.
I see you are a man of few posts - 5 in 8 years? I hope you pick up that pace.
I am gay-- in my mid-50's. Grew up in a Christian home, led by a naive mother and grandmother. On top of that, I'm the oldest sibling-- the only male--meaning I was held to very high standards.
In my family back in the 70's, having a gay son/grandson was incomprehensible. Consequently, at age 17 I was grappling with my sexuality and fear of being rejected not only by my family, but also God. Maybe I'm tougher than most (not bragging), but it didn't take long for me to get royally angry over why everything good about me was automatically void just because I'm gay.
Anger fueled the bravery it took (yes bravery) , at age 18, shortly after my beloved grandmother's passing and graduation, to tell my mother point-blank that I'm gay. Thankfully I prepared for the worst because the worst is what I got. Within the year I was stripped of all rank--humiliated at times-- and lived until recently as the family outcast.
For a few years, I thought about Christianity, but it didn't take me long to realize that Christianity did not do me wrong, people did. Christian leaders misrepresented Christianity and God, and families all over the world bought it lock, stock and barrel. (Imagine, the Christian guy who beat his family was on a higher level that gay-me who despises violence. It didn't make sense).
Christianity, like other religions, is about standing by your beliefs when you are outnumbered. So, instead of abandoning God I kept Him close and try to live out my life as peaceful as possible. Being a gay Christian is difficult because I'm a rare breed in both the gay and straight worlds. ....gays and straights can be quite judgmental, so I've learned to be a good loner.
What a good thread.
Recently had a pastor who is in seminary tell me that he read a statistic in which 40% of homosexuals believe in the Christian God--despite the horrible scriptural interpretations used by fundamentalists to disparage them. He is trying to figure out how to reach out to that group of people while staying within the confines of his own denomination's "code of conduct."
I hope you have read Stranger at the Gate by Rev. Mel White--also a gay christian who grew up in a very conservative christian family. He tried to hide who he was--even married and had children--before coming clean with his wife. They stayed married for several years after that before Mel could no longer deny his desire for intimacy with someone of the same sex. If you haven't read it, I hope you will do so. I'm sure you will see yourself in Mel's many struggles--and he ghost wrote for religious leaders and directed christian films until he finally came out.
If you haven't seen the message preached by young gay Matthew Vines you can find it on YouTube. He preached it to his own church questioning their traditional viewpoints with his two year study of Scripture. I think you would find it interesting.
But what you can be sure of is this. There are those of us who are Christ followers that are as willing to accept you in your own faith, or even your lack of it, because we see all of us standing on common ground without any ability to claim superior "righteousness," to anyone else--gay or straight.
Matthew Vines does not accurately portray Scripture.
If you are interested in doing your best to follow Christ, the video will not help you. He will focus on homosexuality being a bridge to higher self esteem, which in his opinion is paramount... and he will twist the Scriptures to that end, instead of being more like Christ.
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