Christians: Do you believe you are supposed to die for your faith? Are you taught this? (atheist, Jewish)
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No, I do not for ONE SECOND believe that the Oregon shooter was targeting Christians, asking people their religion, etc. I believe he was a mentally deranged man, period.
First-hand reports seem to indicate otherwise.
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But, disgustingly, this has been turned into some sort of Christians-are-being-persecuted-so-let's-make-a-meme kind of thing. If you are on FB at all, I'm sure you've seen them.
Silly us....we're offended at people killing Christians. What are we thinking?
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So, do you, as a Christian, really believe that if someone has a gun to your head and asks if you are a Christian - knowing that if you say "No" you will live (in this fake scenario) - that you are supposed to say "Yes"? Do you truly believe you are supposed to die for your faith? That God would not prefer you to say "No" and be able to live out the rest of your life?
I hope that I would say "Yes". I honestly don't know for sure what I'd say unless it happened, and I hope that it never happens.
And silly the rest of us...we're offended at people killing people.
I've never suggested otherwise. But to a cop, the idea of people targeting cops is particularly scary. To a Christian it is equally so. I imagine if there were people specifically targeting internet posters named "Dude", you'd have an issue, too......besides the fact it was an evil mass murderer.
I've never suggested otherwise. But to a cop, the idea of people targeting cops is particularly scary. To a Christian it is equally so. I imagine if there were people specifically targeting internet posters named "Dude", you'd have an issue, too......besides the fact it was an evil mass murderer.
It matters not that he shot and killed a Jew first? And shot many without asking their religious affiliation?
You guys look under every rock to try to find something to accuse of persecution.
Christian means so many things these days so I would hope I would be able to state what type of Christian I am, yet I hope that I would by the grace of God be able to say Yes instead of No (if it was only the one or the other that can be said).
It's not about this world, it is about the next. The Christian who focuses too much on being able to live in this world and enjoy it is missing the point. The meaning of our lives is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever. Glorifying God as far as I can understand is praising Him, and I don't see how denying belief in Him can be praising Him. In fact, Christians living right after the time of Christ counted it a great joy to be persecuted for His name (to be considered worthy enough by God to be set apart for this purpose). It is frightening to think of being actually killed for believing upon Jesus, but I pray that I will never deny belief in Him if it comes to that.
I suppose that explains the reason why people are depressed. Where do you get the idea that we are not to enjoy this life?
Dying isn’t hard; it’s living with this warped mindset that’s difficult. Laying your life down for the benefit of another has a purpose.
Did he ask if he was religious? If so, I would say that's scary--he's targeting religious people.
And you appear to be doing everything you can to stuff any hint of persecution under the rock.
I am very surprised that he did not kill the dog. He only targeted human beings.
Did he ask if he was religious? If so, I would say that's scary--he's targeting religious people.
And you appear to be doing everything you can to stuff any hint of persecution under the rock.
Because it's not persecution if he shot everyone. You folks just can't wrap your minds around that, can you? He. Shot. Everyone. He. Could.
What you are doing is the equivalent of me saying that since an abortion provider was shot by a Christian crusader, ALL abortion doctors are in danger of being shot by ALL Christians. If I came on here and made that statement, would you agree it is true?
Because it's not persecution if he shot everyone. You folks just can't wrap your minds around that, can you? He. Shot. Everyone. He. Could.
It's persecution if he intentionally shot a Christian in the head and an atheist in the leg. That's the report I heard. I'm sorry if you disagree that there is no difference between wounding and killing.
Actually, no, no one has to be willing to die for their faith. It's pretty sick to think that someone can't be considered a true believer until they are willing to die for their faith. That is brainwashed, cult-like thinking. It is sad that there are so many brainwashed people who would be willing to die at the hands of a madman to prove something. Sad and sick.
As for the other, the shooter shot everyone. It didn't matter if they said anything - he shot the teacher without asking him anything, he shot a woman in a wheelchair when she was on the floor trying to climb back in (while he was taunting her), and he shot a woman in the back when she said her religion was "nothing." All these accounts are coming out and yet the fundie Christians are still treating it as though they were singled out and only the Christians who testified their faith were brave. Sick.
Opining and rhetoric to back your position means nothing unless you can corroborate it with scripture.
Jesus made it very clear when He said; "Whoever does not takeuptheircross and follow me is not worthy of me."
Killing and wounding are not quite the same thing are they? The evidence indicates they WERE singled out, so why would you ignore the evidence unless you are anti Christian yourself?
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