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Old 02-14-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Which JC never abolished or done away with...He said that they were still in effect...
Only the ten commandments.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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Only the ten commandments.
Beside the first ten commandments there were about 600 more.
So, the ' ten ' were only the beginning of the 600+ commandments of the Constitution of the Mosaic Law contract.
Christians are Not under the Sabbaths laws. - Romans 10:4
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Who wrote the New Testament? Nobody we know. It wasn't Jesus or anybody who knew Jesus. I would just say it was written by men who thought they knew something . We don't know what they were really thinking!
Why would you conclude that Jesus' apostles did Not know Jesus ?
Wasn't Matthew a follower of Jesus?
Wasn't John a follower of Jesus?
Wasn't Peter a follower of Jesus?
Wasn't James Jesus' half brother ?
Didn't Jude also know Jesus?

2nd Timothy 3:16-17 places God as Author. God used men as a boss would use a secretary.
Bible writers penned down God's thoughts but in their own style of writing.
Holy Scripture is unique in that it has corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses and passages.
That is why Jesus could often preface his statements with the words, " it is written " meaning already written down in the old Hebrew Scriptures. Thus Jesus could base his teaching by his logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Christians are not under the 600, only the ten, and are not under law but grace.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Only the ten commandments.
Where did he state that it was merely the Ten Commandments?...He said the LAW...Which encompasses 613 Mitzvot...
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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Christians are not under the 600, only the ten, and are not under law but grace.
It's 613...And they all track back to one of the ten...
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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Beside the first ten commandments there were about 600 more.
So, the ' ten ' were only the beginning of the 600+ commandments of the Constitution of the Mosaic Law contract.
Christians are Not under the Sabbaths laws. - Romans 10:4
No...They are under the Seven Noachide Laws...
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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Why would you conclude that Jesus' apostles did Not know Jesus ?
Wasn't Matthew a follower of Jesus?
Wasn't John a follower of Jesus?
Wasn't Peter a follower of Jesus?
Wasn't James Jesus' half brother ?
Didn't Jude also know Jesus?
James was actually his full brother...

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2nd Timothy 3:16-17 places God as Author. God used men as a boss would use a secretary.
Bible writers penned down God's thoughts but in their own style of writing.
Holy Scripture is unique in that it has corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses and passages.
That is why Jesus could often preface his statements with the words, " it is written " meaning already written down in the old Hebrew Scriptures. Thus Jesus could base his teaching by his logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures.
This is not speaking about the New Testament Letters, it is speaking about the Seferim Torah...

2Ti 3:15 and because from a babe the Holy Writings thou hast known, which are able to make thee wise--to salvation, through faith that is in Christ Jesus;

2Ti 3:16 every Writing is God-breathed, and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for setting aright, for instruction that is in righteousness,

2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be fitted--for every good work having been completed.


Those to whom this letter was written to could not possibly have known the Holy Writings from a babe, unless the author was speaking about the Torah...
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:00 PM
 
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paul wrote half the new testament,
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Old 02-17-2016, 12:34 AM
 
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We can use the New Testament to back that up.

Matthew's report that Jeus was born during the life time of King Herod who died in 4 BC verses Luke's report that Jesus was born during Quirinius's census of Judea in 6 AD.

John's report that Jesus was crucified on the day before the Passover, verses Matthew's, Mark's, and Luke's report that Jesus was crucified on the Passover.

Matthew's claim that a prophecy was that He (jesus) would be called a Nazorean when this is no such prophecy nor even any mention of Nazareth in the Old Testament.

Matthew's claim that Judas threw the thity pieces of sileve into the Temple fulfilling the prophecy of Jeremiah, when there is no such prophecy in Jeremiah.

Mark's, Luke's, and John's claim that Jesus set for and rode one animal in the convential when entering Jerusalem, while Matthew has Jesus send for two animals wih he rode when entering Jerusalem to fulfill an Old Tesatment prophecy.

etc. etc.

In each case only one statement can be true. One of the two didn't happen so was not historical.

The dodge of wanting "secular histories" isn't necessary.
Don't you see, I've had thread discussions with Eusebius. He believes that "everything" happened, "[Eusebius' desperate] reconciliation" he calls it. So then Jesus was crucified the day before pass over and also his crucifixion day was the passover, [perhaps since modern Jews use night as the beginning of a day, both are "true" yet... STILL MISLEADING and obviously not from supernatural omni-awareness].
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