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Old 01-27-2016, 04:45 PM
 
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Are NOT by Jesus. I edited my post a typo.
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Old 01-27-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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Because the teachers you listen to do not know what it really teaches--Like this--Rev 13 has been occurring for awhile--all can see it happening, but its as Jesus taught would be here in these last days--Per-se he said-- As in the days of Noah( 99% mislead) the world took no note.
No because it speaks of death and destruction and pain to the whole world and war and plagues and pestilences and it screams antichrist inspiration. Jesus said his followers will know his voice. Does death to the world and worse things than dying with the pain it causes like plagues sound like Christ to you, or an evil God?
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Old 01-28-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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No because it speaks of death and destruction and pain to the whole world and war and plagues and pestilences and it screams antichrist inspiration. Jesus said his followers will know his voice. Does death to the world and worse things than dying with the pain it causes like plagues sound like Christ to you, or an evil God?



We saw Gods will concerning sinful man in Noahs day. (99% went down.)-- the numbers will be similar at Har-mageddon----- Jesus taught---Few will find the road that leads off into life. Rev as well teaches--Jesus will rule with an iron rod--He is the exact image of his Father.
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Old 01-28-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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Jesus never says you must go to or belong to a church to be saved. Mark 3:24-26 is saying in my eyes that a good church that practices evil is not of God and the Catholic church certainly never practices evil. I'm sure much of matthew and mark if not all are not by Jesus, but Luke and John are.



open your eyes--the crusades were evil, the inquisition was evil--burning members of their own religion alive for heresy was evil--allowing the young men to kill catholics who stood on the allied side during ww1, in ww2, they allowed the killing of the young men of their own religion for Adolf Hitler. They used to sell--salvation---the bloodguilt has amassed to the heavens. This is far removed from God or his son.
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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No because it speaks of death and destruction and pain to the whole world and war and plagues and pestilences and it screams antichrist inspiration. Jesus said his followers will know his voice. Does death to the world and worse things than dying with the pain it causes like plagues sound like Christ to you, or an evil God?
We can surely agree Satan is antichrist ( besides being anti-God )
Satan brings ' woe ' to earth - Revelation 12:9,12 - so this world's woe has Satan's antichrist inspiration.

Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.
We are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation ' on earth between the humble sheep and haughty goats.
-Matthew 25:31-33,37
The humble sheep or people are the ones who will come through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14
The words from Jesus' mouth will execute only the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:11,15; Psalm 92:7
Unlike in men's wars, No one innocent will be in harm's way.
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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We saw Gods will concerning sinful man in Noahs day. (99% went down.)-- the numbers will be similar at Har-mageddon----- Jesus taught---Few will find the road that leads off into life. Rev as well teaches--Jesus will rule with an iron rod--He is the exact image of his Father.
Why would God damn a world that isn't evil? The world isn't all evil there are alot of good people. Would Christ burn people in FIRE, the most painful way to die or burn his former angels in the lake of fire? Does this sound like christ?
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:46 PM
 
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Why would God damn a world that isn't evil? The world isn't all evil there are alot of good people. Would Christ burn people in FIRE, the most painful way to die or burn his former angels in the lake of fire? Does this sound like christ?



God knows exactly what he is doing and why--justice plays an important role in all his dealings-Deut 32:4)--- sin = wickedness to God--- 1Cor 6:9-11, Gal 5:19-21 are a couple of lists of unacceptable sins that God will not allow. Yet the majority do these--not to mention false god worship--and being mislead to partake off the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21)--(fire = destruction.)
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Old 01-28-2016, 05:14 PM
 
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But why not look at the good in humans instead of dwelling on just the bad?
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Old 01-29-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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But why not look at the good in humans instead of dwelling on just the bad?



Its all there in black and white--most haven't even bothered to read the bible, let alone learn and apply Gods will. The worst reason why is because some teachers of darkness have assured them--you are saved or born again so they don't bother. They are in for a big shock.
All humans have love in them--including--Hitler--all the mortals in Noahs day--Osama bin laden, etc,etc--- They fail to learn and apply Gods will---Jesus taught--only those who live now to do his Fathers will, get to enter his kingdom( be saved)Matt 7:21( from the living) -- others will be resurrected after Har-mageddon.
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Old 01-29-2016, 05:26 PM
 
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Its all there in black and white--most haven't even bothered to read the bible, let alone learn and apply Gods will. The worst reason why is because some teachers of darkness have assured them--you are saved or born again so they don't bother. They are in for a big shock.
All humans have love in them--including--Hitler--all the mortals in Noahs day--Osama bin laden, etc,etc--- They fail to learn and apply Gods will---Jesus taught--only those who live now to do his Fathers will, get to enter his kingdom( be saved)Matt 7:21( from the living) -- others will be resurrected after Har-mageddon.
I was wondering if you have privileges in the congregation. Do you have children? Are they still in?


I just saw you quoted Matthew 7:21. A few verses above that is one of those pivotal scriptures that actually started me thinking when I was a kid. You know, the one about the narrow gate. Odds are a person is on the broad and spacious road no matter how good they try to be. Either you got it or you don't, right? The thing is everyone thinks that scripture applies to their group making it through the narrow gate and others being on the broad road. It seems that thinking you are on the narrow road almost guarantees you are on the broad road.
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