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So the question is always asked: "Why did God create sin?"
"He didn't," you reply. "Sin is a result of man having free will."
Okay, so the whole 'tree in the garden' setup was because God wanted Adam and Eve to freely choose Him and they chose... poorly. Bummer for us.
But then we are told about the end of days, where God will 'destroy' sin and death and all the righteous will live in a New Earth which will have no tears, sadness or sin.
So how can God set up a world in the future where there's no sin and presumably free will but He couldn't just set that up in the first place?
I feel like there's a logical contradiction here and I would like to hear some opinions on this from other Christians.
Sin isn't the result of man having free will, sin is the result of man wilfully choosing against God - do you see the difference?
The first subtly makes God responsible for our sin by giving us a free will, the second statement puts the responsibility of sin where it belongs, with the sinner that wilfully chose to disobey God.
Can you see how sinful even the question you are asking is, you are making God responsible for "setting up a world with sin and death" but you are in error, we are the ones responsible for the fall. The fact that there will be a New Heaven and New Earth even in and of itself is an undeserved mercy of God.
In stead of questioning why God couldn't create a New Heaven and Earth in the first place (which is a curious way of thinking since paradise was perfect and we are the ones that ruined it - basically it seems you accuse God of giving us a choice), be thankful that we don't immediately all get what we deserve as the just penalty for our sin which is everlasting punishment in hell, but instead in His unimaginable mercy and love God sent Jesus Christ to save us and give us eternal life if we repent and trust the Savior.
So the question is always asked: "Why did God create sin?"
"He didn't," you reply. "Sin is a result of man having free will."
Okay, so the whole 'tree in the garden' setup was because God wanted Adam and Eve to freely choose Him and they chose... poorly. Bummer for us.
But then we are told about the end of days, where God will 'destroy' sin and death and all the righteous will live in a New Earth which will have no tears, sadness or sin.
So how can God set up a world in the future where there's no sin and presumably free will but He couldn't just set that up in the first place?
I feel like there's a logical contradiction here and I would like to hear some opinions on this from other Christians.
The crucifixion paid the price for all sins, pasts, present and future. In heaven our free will will always chose the right thing.
In fact our free will always choose the right thing today(Rom 7:18). What we no longer have is "free ability" to do what we choose to do( Rom 7:15).
It wasn't an accident...Man could not have self-realization and grow without having diversity...A wise person is one who has made mistakes...
That is not supporting evidence. It was not an accident, it was the result of making a poor choice. The wisest person is one who obeys, thus not making a mistake.
It wasn't an accident...Man could not have self-realization and grow without having diversity...A wise person is one who has made mistakes...
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Originally Posted by JJ_Maxx
No. The reason I don't understand is because people like you and the rest of your ilk insist on creating a religion out of thin air and claiming it to be gospel truth. You say things such as 'it was' and 'it is' like you are speaking from some position of authority when your claims are not based in any authority other than your own imagination.
I am specifically asking for a discussion based on accepted Christian doctrine and theology, not any single persons anecdotal thoughts or fabricated, baseless opinions.
Good for you. It is very simple: God said don't do it and they did it. If they had obeyed, there would have been no need to know good and evil. Now we must all learn the hard way.
Your Christian doctrine and theology is fabricated by men interpreting scripture under the mistaken notion that it is the 100% word of God. But it only CONTAINS inspirations from God interpreted by fallible and ignorant men using their biases, superstitions, and barbaric beliefs about God. My views are from the Scriptures augmented by 21st-century knowledge and understanding and the guidance of the Comforter and His Holy Spirit of agape love. There are no baseless opinions.
The Bible does not include interpretations. It is as word for word translation done by experts Hebrew and Greek. An opinion that is not reinforced by God's inspired word is baseless.
Actually it does contain some interpretations, when Jesus had to explain the parable of the sower to His disciples.
These and many truths are clearly revealed in Scripture -- But, they are hidden from those who consider Scripture and the things of God foolish (1 Corinthians 2:13-15); or in the Jewish context 2 Corinthians 3:12-15.
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