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You STILL don't address the questionable validity of the Bible as "Guide" when SO many people have different ideas about its guidance. Let me ask the question a different way since you won't touch this one with a ten foot pole: what do you think would happen if the first question about ANY perception was not "what does the Bible say?" but "Does it comport with the fruit of the Spirit.
Speaking of the fruit of the Spirit, you still miss the point that the characteristics of the Spirit are known and ANY answer must conform to that test. Another point you keep ignoring.
What is most interesting about dealing with you is that a valid, reasonable answer to your questions seems to slide by without you being able to process it so you just keep repeating the same question and STILL won't process the answer, much less address it..
Vizio (and others) will NOT use the characteristics of the Holy Spirit to evaluate scripture because so much of their heartfelt dogma and doctrine is contradictory and incompatible with those characteristics.
Vizio (and others) will NOT use the characteristics of the Holy Spirit to evaluate scripture because so much of their heartfelt dogma and doctrine is contradictory and incompatible with those characteristics.
If you don't agree that the Bible is inerrant, I go along with Vizo.
The number of denominations is irrelevant. They can't all be right, but one could be.
They could all be wrong as well.
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Originally Posted by Vizio
What happens when "the Spirit" doesn't confirm it? And how do you know what "the Spirit" is saying? How do you tell if it's the Spirit or a bad taco?
So you toss it out...
That's because that's what it comes down to.
The problem is, the "promised Guide" tells you one thing, and you somehow think that YOUR revelation from the "promised Guide" is better than what the apostles received.
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Originally Posted by nateswift
You STILL don't address the questionable validity of the Bible as "Guide" when SO many people have different ideas about its guidance. Let me ask the question a different way since you won't touch this one with a ten foot pole: what do you think would happen if the first question about ANY perception was not "what does the Bible say?" but "Does it comport with the fruit of the Spirit.
Speaking of the fruit of the Spirit, you still miss the point that the characteristics of the Spirit are known and ANY answer must conform to that test. Another point you keep ignoring.
What is most interesting about dealing with you is that a valid, reasonable answer to your questions seems to slide by without you being able to process it so you just keep repeating the same question and STILL won't process the answer, much less address it..
If you don't agree that the Bible is inerrant, I go along with Vizo.
The number of denominations is irrelevant. They can't all be right, but one could be.
one could be? if that is the best you have, no wonder you won't answer me, O. I mean i struggle to get where nate is coming from too, o don't quite get it, but how do you justify yours being any better in this case?
That is not what the Bible says. The Bible clearly tells us what the tares symbolize. All you have to do is read it and understand it, instead of making something up that is not even related.
The number of denominations claiming the guidance of the Bible and contradicting each other about what it means is a STRONG indication of the value of the book AS a guide.
AMEN. oh, wait, you don't mean that like i mean it, huh
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Originally Posted by nateswift
What is ALSO strange is that the answer to the question about determining the guidance of the Spirit BY the known characteristics of the Spirit is completely ignored.........Why?
that i don't get either, but then you're sorta skipping pointed Qs yourself, it seems, nate.
Vizio (and others) will NOT use the characteristics of the Holy Spirit to evaluate scripture because so much of their heartfelt dogma and doctrine is contradictory and incompatible with those characteristics.
but that isn't even what he asked? was it?
"what do you think would happen if the first question about ANY perception was
[not "what does the Bible say?" but] "Does it comport with the fruit of the Spirit?"
so, sort of. Well, any answer that does not conform to this rule is against the Bible nate, sounds like you already know that.
Vizio (and others) will NOT use the characteristics of the Holy Spirit to evaluate scripture because so much of their heartfelt dogma and doctrine is contradictory and incompatible with those characteristics.
nice. seek your own salvation
but a little leaven...
Slice.
A bit of pineapple.
Seek your own
Tropical breakfast.
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