Alternative Orthodoxy (St Francis) (Gospel, gnostic, belief, scriptures)
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Not "mere" at all. Important words, but they have to be taken in the context of when and to whom they were written, and studied, and what we understand from them at one stage in our growth may be a different understanding at another.
You want to just learn to recite the quotes as we did as children to earn stars in our Sunday School chart, and then that's it. Not delve into a deeper study of their meaning in the context of real life, not question anything. Just memorize and say "well, God said XYZ, so call it a day".
That's the major differerence between fundamentalists and non. I admit, your way is easier. It's black and white, you just whip out a memory verse to apply to any given situation...however, some have found that the answers aren't simple, because God isn't simple, and so we dig deeper, asking God for guidance in understanding better. We'll never be able to know it all because of our imperfections.
Wow, that's a big assumption you're making about me and my study of the Bible. You dodged what I said.
The Bible merely conveys the thoughts of men based on their religious beliefs and/or perceptions.
Ha! Peter, who walked with Jesus said this...
2 Peter 1:20-21
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
Jesus referred many times to the prophets who spoke about Him.
The Episcopal Church, and others like it, believe that we are to use the ability to reason that God gave us. We know the epistles were written by a human in a certain time and place for a certain reason, and study them with that in mind. We equate neither the author nor his work with God. Your tiresome quoting demonstrates nothing but your own self-righteous pride.
Jesus's words to love God and others trump all else.
And the real love consists of making sure all you do love will enter Gods kingdom= the real life= eternal life.
And clearly show them that to choose 70-90 years of flesh pleasure now is not worth missing out on entrance into Gods kingdom. And those that have the love Jesus was talking about do this- without fail-Matthew 16:24--disown oneself to follow Jesus--Few can or have.
God inspired the words of the bible. Errors did get in though--later.
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
Jesus referred many times to the prophets who spoke about Him.
Please don't post in my threads. I've asked you in the past and you respected the request then.
You do realize you're scoffing at the precise context and expectations God has for people that Jesus had in mind when becoming a *little*-child of Christ. God said what He meant and conversely meant what He said which subsequently carries the same weight in the inspired Word of God ... the Bible.
It actually is no less "a demonstrates nothing but your own self-righteous pride" attitude to question then God's Word the Bible on the basis of something in the Bible being archaic.
The Bible merely conveys the thoughts of men based on their religious beliefs and/or perceptions.
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Originally Posted by jimmiej
Ha! Peter, who walked with Jesus said this...
2 Peter 1:20-21
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
Jesus referred many times to the prophets who spoke about Him.
If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his (own) faith.
Fair enough. I can only base my assessment on what I know from.ypur posts on this forum.
I didn't dodge what you said. I corrected YOUR assumption that I was dismissing scripture as the mere words of men.
You dodged the fact that your denomination accepts the Apostle John's words regarding Christ, but regards his later epistles and the Revelation as not from God.
Your explanation is confusing at best. What gives the epistles any authority?
You dodged the fact that your denomination accepts the Apostle John's words regarding Christ, but regards his later epistles and the Revelation as not from God.
Your explanation is confusing at best. What gives the epistles any authority?
Jimmie, I have asked you repeatedly to stop posting in my thread. I know you are reading this.
This is proof that you are deliberately trying to start arguments. Please take your Bible thumping elsewhere.
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