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O faith-LESS one, you think G-d can't manage His own household? Peace
It has nothing to do with what God CAN or can not do, Rbbi. It is all about whether or not He HAS done anything and the evidence abounds that He has NOT.
It has nothing to do with what God CAN or can not do, Rbbi. It is all about whether or not He HAS done anything and the evidence abounds that He has NOT.
But you all are against any form of judgment (when it involves you it's "sin-consciousness" right?), so why are you crying out for judgment against the churches that have amassed wealth? Peace
God allowed both those Temples to be destroyed. Guess wealth didn't seem so important to Him as it is to denominations. It IS wealth that is the problem---and Jesus said so, so you refuse to follow His teaching:
Matt 19:23-24
Luke 21:1-4
Money is corrupting that is why I'm opposed to "rich" politicians as much as rich churches.
You continue to espouse a lot of confidence that God will bring His will to bear on institutions. Why don't you have the same confidence that He will bring people to Himself through the EXAMPLE of real christians who know how to love an individual to Christ instead of harping on THEIR sins?
With all due respect, Warden, do you not see the hypocritical stance you just erected with your last statement? What you said begs the question; why aren't YOU bringing those you are condemning in these posts, through the "example of real Christians who know how to love an individual to Christ instead of harping on THEIR sins?"
Again, it is the LOVE of mammon that is the problem, not the money or the having of money, itself. He destroyed those temples for reasons unrelated to money, and I'm pretty sure you know that.
And by your stance, you're actually denigrating Him and don't realize it. Don't you know that He has authority over mammon? He came to reverse the curses, the curses being, poverty, sickness, and death. He proved this by the fish with the coin in it's mouth.
The reason the evil one wanted to kill Him in the first place is because if you are not under the system of self-gain (needing man's monetary systems to survive), can't be killed off or controlled through diseased flesh (because your G-d is a healer), even have the weather at your command, these 3 things just pointed to His mastery as master of the sea, land (EARTHEN vessels), and air. Only thing left is fire, and He settled that one too on the day of Pentecost. He IS El Yon, G-d of heaven and earth.
Saying He is not in control of the mammon is a discredit to His righteousness, power, and His nature. Just because it doesn't APPEAR that way right now, doesn't make it untrue. He has a settling and a reckoning coming to all.
And BTW, I'm not a fan of ANY of the churches, the mega-churches probably the least of all. But principles of G-d supersede any opinions I might have, for or against, ANYTHING. It's HIS truth I'm after. Peace
Saying He is not in control of the mammon is a discredit to His righteousness, power, and His nature. Just because it doesn't APPEAR that way right now, doesn't make it untrue. He has a settling and a reckoning coming to all.
Yet, that does not JUSTIFY the presence or what these charlatan's do to the desperate and poor in spirit.
Yet, that does not JUSTIFY the presence or what these charlatan's do to the desperate and poor in spirit.
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Originally Posted by Rbbi1
Let's make sure we're on the same page here, first of all. What is "poor of spirit" to you, exactly? Peace
I am not talking about weakness of character, or your GOD TALK of being SLAIN in the SPIRIT.
Rather, those who are raked-over the coals of the ungodly - to fill their own pockets with excess.
Or, if you prefer, that of deceiving people, when they are "desperate for hope."
But you all are against any form of judgment (when it involves you it's "sin-consciousness" right?), so why are you crying out for judgment against the churches that have amassed wealth? Peace
I am NOT "crying out for judgment against the churches that have amassed wealth." In my view, God is quite capable of drawing straight lines with "crooked sticks." A lot of people are made more spiritual and decent by following these charlatans. It is not my place to judge nor is it yours to judge anyone or anything except yourself, EVER. We face God alone and are responsible only for ourselves.
Let's make sure we're on the same page here, first of all. What is "poor of spirit" to you, exactly? Peace
To be poor in Spirit is to be in a place where "there's got to be more there has to be more".... in other words not content with what you have, there's always more to discover to receive and to give, unlike like bible fundamentalists who believe they have it all and are in need of nothing. Sounds familiar Rev 3 ?.
I am not talking about weakness of character, or your GOD TALK of being SLAIN in the SPIRIT. Rather, those who are raked-over the coals of the ungodly - to fill their own pockets with excess.
Or, if you prefer, that of deceiving people, when they are "desperate for hope."
Again, what do you mean by "poor of spirit"? Peace
I am NOT "crying out for judgment against the churches that have amassed wealth." In my view, God is quite capable of drawing straight lines with "crooked sticks." A lot of people are made more spiritual and decent by following these charlatans. It is not my place to judge nor is it yours to judge anyone or anything except yourself, EVER. We face God alone and are responsible only for ourselves.
Then when will you stop judging these "charlatans"? Peace
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