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Old 05-23-2017, 02:02 PM
 
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Hannibal, you can not judge others on who they are based on what you think they are, I do not go to church, and no body in Christianity would think I am a Christian because what Christianity seems to be about is believeing that Jesus is God, also I am not claiming to be a Jew or Ephraim or Israel ...... it is not about becoming part of the old system (whether it be Judaism, Christianity or Islam)

Gods plan is the new system
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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Hannibal, you can not judge others on who they are based on what you think they are, I do not go to church, and no body in Christianity would think I am a Christian because what Christianity seems to be about is believeing that Jesus is God, also I am not claiming to be a Jew or Ephraim or Israel ...... it is not about becoming part of the old system (whether it be Judaism, Christianity or Islam)

Gods plan is the new system

Don't think I am judging you and telling you that you are going to hell or that I am any better than you in the long run. There are 3 sections of heaven and all are saved but some are the least, and some are the greatest and some are in between.


I still see myself as amongst the least in the kingdom for my own reason, and as such, I see myself in the same place I might see Christians in.


Having said that, there is in fact greater things to achieve while I sit weeping and gnashing my teeth because I didn't run the good race, but others have, and others will, and they will obtain the high prize that God has promised to his people. Overcomers will become firstfruits and birth bodies of immortality, while I expect to be saved but not among those firstfruits, not even in the first resurrection.


It is a race, and if people do not understand that they are in the race of their lives trying to obtain a better resurrection, how will they run?


They will not.


Pressing Toward the Goal



12Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
13Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have laid hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14I press on toward the goal to win the prize of God’s heavenly calling in Christ Jesus. 15All of us who are mature should embrace this point of view. And if you think differently about some issue, God will reveal this to you as well.…


1 Corinthians 9:24
Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? Run in such a way as to take the prize.





Christ the Only Foundation_


10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.



Did all those people sell all they own for nothing? Did all those people suffer torture and death for nothing, or will God hand those overcomers the keys of heaven and make them different from others?

Many sons will come into the kingdom to recline with Abraham, but the girl at the door will escort them out.

Many people will come to the wedding feast, but if they have not already made them a fine woven work of linen, they shall be cast out of the kingdom.

There is a difference between the dogs like me and other people.


Jesus is Coming
…14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates. 15But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.








Revelation shows how a person overcomes, it is a spiritual warfare within himself.
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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Revelation shows how a person overcomes, it is a spiritual warfare within himself.

Yes it is.....
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Old 05-23-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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I think where you are at is still putting faith in the old system and thinking that the point of Gods plan is an individual going to "heaven"

Also you are still trying to work for your salvation ..... and looking for a reward. God wants people to be good because they are good and they have learned to be be good, not people who only do what is good because they will be punished if they do something bad or do good because the will be rewarded for it.

We are tested to see what is truly in our hearts and will be judged on our actions and motivation.

you are building up a system of working your way to God, and trusting in the written word. Jesus said Gods spirit will lead his disciples NOT a book which testifies of him
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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I agree with you both on that point.....that individually we must overcome evil with good internally, it is the other things that you say we need to know and do i.e. Go back to the Judaism religion. We are to love God not the systems that have evolved from his commandments which are summed up in love God and love your neighbor.
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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I think where you are at is still putting faith in the old system and thinking that the point of Gods plan is an individual going to "heaven"



This is where you are wrong in thinking the ways of God is an old system.
The plan is that the world become one religion and stop killing each other


We are talking about world peace Meerkat, and where you and I sit safe, it has never been that way for others and it still isn't.


Christians look on these Islamic bombings as if they had no hand in them, when in fact, they set the path for Islam when they rejected the ways of God and instituted Babylonian feast feasts that separated them from Judah, and the reason so much hate was brought on Jews to begin with.


Christians bias against the religion of God makes them hate Jews and makes Muslim hate Jews in their footsteps because they chose to separate just as the ten tribes did, so too, they did.


What kind of world do you think we would be living in right now if Christianity never left the 7 feasts of Jesus?


What kind of world would we be living in if Islam would not have followed Christianity in their Babylonian feasts?


Both Islam and Christianity began with Passover, Pentecost and the feast of Tabernacles, both changed and separated from Judah, and millions have died because of it.


Nobody would hate Jews, nobody would hate the law, but since Christian gentiles didn't want to die for God, they separated, and this separation is in fact, still killing people while we sit here safe for the moment, but it isn't as if everything is cherries, let's just love each other, it doesn't work that way, and until Christianity returns to the same religion as Jews, their will be murder, hate, death.


It has been this way for 2000 years of killing the people who love the commandments of God, do you think God is going to turn a blind eye to all the people who hate his people, who despise us when we love the laws?


I am in no fear, but Christians hate and despise me because I love the ways of God and I have left Egypt and Babylon to come to God.


God is not going to turn a blind eye of 2000 years of torture and death against the people who refused to reject God's ways.
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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This is where you are wrong in thinking the ways of God is an old system.
The plan is that the world become one religion and stop killing each other


We are talking about world peace Meerkat, and where you and I sit safe, it has never been that way for others and it still isn't.


Christians look on these Islamic bombings as if they had no hand in them, when in fact, they set the path for Islam when they rejected the ways of God and instituted Babylonian feast feasts that separated them from Judah, and the reason so much hate was brought on Jews to begin with.


Christians bias against the religion of God makes them hate Jews and makes Muslim hate Jews in their footsteps because they chose to separate just as the ten tribes did, so too, they did.


What kind of world do you think we would be living in right now if Christianity never left the 7 feasts of Jesus?


What kind of world would we be living in if Islam would not have followed Christianity in their Babylonian feasts?


Both Islam and Christianity began with Passover, Pentecost and the feast of Tabernacles, both changed and separated from Judah, and millions have died because of it.


Nobody would hate Jews, nobody would hate the law, but since Christian gentiles didn't want to die for God, they separated, and this separation is in fact, still killing people while we sit here safe for the moment, but it isn't as if everything is cherries, let's just love each other, it doesn't work that way, and until Christianity returns to the same religion as Jews, their will be murder, hate, death.


It has been this way for 2000 years of killing the people who love the commandments of God, do you think God is going to turn a blind eye to all the people who hate his people, who despise us when we love the laws?


I am in no fear, but Christians hate and despise me because I love the ways of God and I have left Egypt and Babylon to come to God.


God is not going to turn a blind eye of 2000 years of torture and death against the people who refused to reject God's ways.
I agree totally that God is building a system that will be world peace..... the city that is split in 3 in revelation is the same as the 3 sons of Noah (ham, Shem, Japheth) which are where the physical nations stem from which are the physical Abrahamic RELIGIONS....... God is not interested in our religions we build up around people ..........

The religions of Islam, Christianity and Judaism and their wars of physical JERUSALEM are part/a symptom of the leaven which is leavening the whole loaf.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:00 PM
 
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On the other Hand The Mark of Ezequiel is a CROSS. The Jews Removed it from their alphabet after Christians took it to Chrismate Christians.
What are you talking about?...
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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I agree totally that God is building a system that will be world peace..... the city that is split in 3 in revelation is the same as the 3 sons of Noah (ham, Shem, Japheth) which are where the physical nations stem from which are the physical Abrahamic RELIGIONS....... God is not interested in our religions we build up around people ..........

The religions of Islam, Christianity and Judaism and their wars of physical JERUSALEM are part/a symptom of the leaven which is leavening the whole loaf.
God will take all the holy days from us because it is a burden. The only reason they exist is to bring all people together. The only thing that matters is that nations stand with Jews in that they quit disrespecting the laws of God.


Jesus and none of his disciples taught any Jew not to keep any law, it's ok if Gentiles don't want to keep all the big shadoo, but why do they want to make the law a sin to follow?


God demanded that Jews keep his commandments forever, the problem being, Christianity wants to make the commandments of God sin, or as if we were committing some evil in celebrating the feast of our joy.


The feast of Tabernacles is made for the 70 nations, and ALL PEOPLE will come and keep it or die, not because God cares what you do on a stupid holy day, he cares that you separated and persecuted the people you separated from.


If you find a single place where Paul is teaching a Jew not to keep the laws of Moses, then you have found proof of him being a false prophet who deserved to die, Paul never taught Jews not to keep the laws and there was no debates when Gentile and Jew were one.


100 years after Jesus, after the Jewish war, Gentiles left the first Christianity, and Jews have been paying for it all this time.


World peace will only come when people become one with Israel because the Jew could not possibly come to Christianity even if he wants to be one with the gentile, he cannot, a Jew cannot have anything to do with Paganism.


The Jews got mixed up with Ephraim's paganism and God brought them into Babylon and refined them and they no longer had anything to do with other gods and paganism.


The gentile MUST come to the Jew if the two are to be one in the hand of the Lord because the Jew simply cannot take up pagan practices or have any disrespect for the law.
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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God will take all the holy days from us because it is a burden. The only reason they exist is to bring all people together. The only thing that matters is that nations stand with Jews in that they quit disrespecting the laws of God.


Jesus and none of his disciples taught any Jew not to keep any law, it's ok if Gentiles don't want to keep all the big shadoo, but why do they want to make the law a sin to follow?


God demanded that Jews keep his commandments forever, the problem being, Christianity wants to make the commandments of God sin, or as if we were committing some evil in celebrating the feast of our joy.


The feast of Tabernacles is made for the 70 nations, and ALL PEOPLE will come and keep it or die, not because God cares what you do on a stupid holy day, he cares that you separated and persecuted the people you separated from.


If you find a single place where Paul is teaching a Jew not to keep the laws of Moses, then you have found proof of him being a false prophet who deserved to die, Paul never taught Jews not to keep the laws and there was no debates when Gentile and Jew were one.


100 years after Jesus, after the Jewish war, Gentiles left the first Christianity, and Jews have been paying for it all this time.


World peace will only come when people become one with Israel because the Jew could not possibly come to Christianity even if he wants to be one with the gentile, he cannot, a Jew cannot have anything to do with Paganism.


The Jews got mixed up with Ephraim's paganism and God brought them into Babylon and refined them and they no longer had anything to do with other gods and paganism.


The gentile MUST come to the Jew if the two are to be one in the hand of the Lord because the Jew simply cannot take up pagan practices or have any disrespect for the law.
The word used for forever actually means perpetually, and when Jesus came as their Passover lamb (Judah's Passover) their house was left desolate, now they need to come into the NEW COVENANT ........... their age ended in 70AD because they did not recognize their saviour
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