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That's really the whole problem with Christianity nearly, is that it doesn't understand the Jewish foundation that was laid, nor the Jewish idioms, nor the Jewish feasts, ect. How can you understand a book written about another book, when you didn't understand the first one? You can't. It takes a concerted effort to "catch up", when you're not seeing firsthand with Jews what is going on every day as a way of life, and few are willing to make the effort. And He knew that after 2000 years of a breach, that few would. Peace
The book that was written to the Hebrews was taken over by a disobedient people, Jesus came to rescue his people from that system, Christianity as a whole has become a disobedient people.
Just because God is calling his people out from Babylon, doesn't mean he wants them to go back into Egypt.
The new is not found in being a "Jew" or being a "Christian"
The book that was written to the Hebrews was taken over by a disobedient people, Jesus came to rescue his people from that system, Christianity as a whole has become a disobedient people.
Just because God is calling his people out from Babylon, doesn't mean he wants them to go back into Egypt.
The new is not found in being a "Jew" or being a "Christian"
Jesus did not come to rescue people from the system or worship that His Father established. He came to rescue people from the tyranny of the people that were using it for their own self gain, and give them the Spirit to understand how to walk it out with understanding for themselves. He did not come to create a new religion. Peace
Jesus did not come to rescue people from the system or worship that His Father established. He came to rescue people from the tyranny of the people that were using it for their own self gain, and give them the Spirit to understand how to walk it out with understanding for themselves. He did not come to create a new religion. Peace
Yes I know that. just because you believe your interpretation of things doesn't make them true,
I am allowed an opinion because I am in Judaism and I know my religion.
What you are reading are things written and spoken about converts to Judaism.
I practice Judaism, I study the feasts, the ways of the Temple, the law, and so I DO have an opinion, an interpretation.
I am really not trying to offend you, I am just saying that I have an opinion of my own religion, but you are not in Judaism, you probably don't study the feasts and all the Jewish idioms, traditions and rituals of my religion, but you will debate me from your religion. Can you understand my point?
Jesus did not come to rescue people from the system or worship that His Father established. He came to rescue people from the tyranny of the people that were using it for their own self gain, and give them the Spirit to understand how to walk it out with understanding for themselves. He did not come to create a new religion. Peace
You are right that he did not come to make a new religion but he did come to do away with the old religion.
Gods kingdom is not about religion, it is about spirit and truth which was testified about in the Hebrew Scriptures, he told the Jews they NEED to come to him for life....... you trying to physically tie yourself to Jews without them recognizing THEIR saviour and OUR saviour will not bring in Gods kingdom, which is a new creation in Christ.
The physical temple in physical Jerusalem pointed to the spiritual, once the spiritual came which is Jesus the man, raised by the spirit you we are told not to Look back to the old.(lots wife) ..... we now are part of the the new temple which is christs body in the spirit ...... nothing to do with going to heaven, it is the process of God through his spirit, in Christ, in his people then being all in all.
I am allowed an opinion because I am in Judaism and I know my religion.
What you are reading are things written and spoken about converts to Judaism.
I practice Judaism, I study the feasts, the ways of the Temple, the law, and so I DO have an opinion, an interpretation.
I am really not trying to offend you, I am just saying that I have an opinion of my own religion, but you are not in Judaism, you probably don't study the feasts and all the Jewish idioms, traditions and rituals of my religion, but you will debate me from your religion. Can you understand my point?
And I am not trying to offend you lol
You can be in Judaism, but Jesus said search the scriptures because in them you THINK you have life, but they testify OF me.
It is not about going back to Judaism, it is about the new, both being one in Christ
I mean, I don't believe in a hell like some Christians, I know God is all merciful just like Jonah knew, but I was sure there were 3 sections of heaven, and today I found out that there isn't, and that we will all be the same in heaven, there will be no elite groups who have obtained special rewards, and there is no hell where anyone will be punished.
Brothers, sisters, praise God, Praise God, it has now come to an end.
There is no mercy in allowing evil to exist when it doesn't have to. Let alone is there any omni-mercy in it.
And if evil will not exist in the future, it didn't have to exist in the past. What is this procrastination, except the opposite of mercy?
If by mercy, one means only the cessation of justice (bad consequences for bad actions), then it contradicts those who beg for their own mercy which is the upholding of justice.
You are right that he did not come to make a new religion but he did come to do away with the old religion.
Gods kingdom is not about religion, it is about spirit and truth which was testified about in the Hebrew Scriptures, he told the Jews they NEED to come to him for life....... you trying to physically tie yourself to Jews without them recognizing THEIR saviour and OUR saviour will not bring in Gods kingdom, which is a new creation in Christ.
The physical temple in physical Jerusalem pointed to the spiritual, once the spiritual came which is Jesus the man, raised by the spirit you we are told not to Look back to the old.(lots wife) ..... we now are part of the the new temple which is christs body in the spirit ...... nothing to do with going to heaven, it is the process of God through his spirit, in Christ, in his people then being all in all.
No, He didn't and neither did Paul, if you read in context and note that they both attended the feasts, the "last supper" was a Passover, ect. What you have is the Hellenist viewpoint which was passed down from generation to generation from about 100AD in every denomination on earth, save the Jewish one. Did you forget the scripture that states there is one religion, and that's G-d's?
And I am naturally a Jew, so I'm not trying to "tie myself" to anything, I've received Him as Messiah, and received His Spirit which teaches me. Peace
No, He didn't and neither did Paul, if you read in context and note that they both attended the feasts, the "last supper" was a Passover, ect. What you have is the Hellenist viewpoint which was passed down from generation to generation from about 100AD in every denomination on earth, save the Jewish one. Did you forget the scripture that states there is one religion, and that's G-d's?
And I am naturally a Jew, so I'm not trying to "tie myself" to anything, I've received Him as Messiah, and received His Spirit which teaches me. Peace
Did you forget what James, a leader of the congregation that Ebionites came from had to say about "true religion?"
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