The difficulty of salvation (accept, born, celebrate, Gospel)
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I told you in the post. That you cannot be helped while you are in denial. It is not saying you are condemned of God, how you and like minded evangelicals read it. Another problem with fundamentalists is how you think you have a right to judge something thought to be a sinner in another, it is none of your business, other than seeing the one missing the mark hitting the mark by faith in prayer.
Yes and then the good news is that God WILL forgives us, through the redemptive work of Jesus.
I think this is what you really mean. You have God roaming around like the devil holding unforgiveness in heart towards all that do not believe in him.
But the Bible does say quite extensively that salvation is only for those who believe on Christ. I don't believe we can ignore this.
But the promise is that those who come, Christ declares that He will "in no wise cast out". Redemption is accomplished through Christ, yes. But it is appropriated through faith in His redemptive work as our only hope.
Most of the people I have spoken with do not oppose the gospel with objections such as much of what is offered on this forum. They simply feel that they are fine without a savior, and believe they have no need of Christ in that way. They are reasonably convinced that God will have no problem with them as they are, since they certainly have not been that bad.
But the Bible tells us that outside of Christ there is no salvation. And (many of) those who come under the hearing of the gospel, faithfully preached, become convicted of their need of salvation, and cry out to God for mercy, and embrace Christ as their only and true hope.
I would otherwise wonder how we would understand grace and mercy in another way. Where would the mercy and grace come in if God weren't saving people from some horrible consequence because of their sins. It seems to be a fair question. Thanks.
But the Bible does say quite extensively that salvation is only for those who believe on Christ. I don't believe we can ignore this.
But the promise is that those who come, Christ declares that He will "in no wise cast out". Redemption is accomplished through Christ, yes. But it is appropriated through faith in His redemptive work as our only hope.
Most of the people I have spoken with do not oppose the gospel with objections such as much of what is offered on this forum. They simply feel that they are fine without a savior, and believe they have no need of Christ in that way. They are reasonably convinced that God will have no problem with them as they are, since they certainly have not been that bad.
But the Bible tells us that outside of Christ there is no salvation. And (many of) those who come under the hearing of the gospel, faithfully preached, become convicted of their need of salvation, and cry out to God for mercy, and embrace Christ as their only and true hope.
I would otherwise wonder how we would understand grace and mercy in another way. Where would the mercy and grace come in if God weren't saving people from some horrible consequence because of their sins. It seems to be a fair question. Thanks.
Of cause Salvation is only for those that believe. Yet true salvation has got nothing to do with escaping from hell to heaven because you believe in Jesus. Salvation is an experience in the now from missing the mark.
But the Bible does say quite extensively that salvation is only for those who believe on Christ. I don't believe we can ignore this.
But the promise is that those who come, Christ declares that He will "in no wise cast out". Redemption is accomplished through Christ, yes. But it is appropriated through faith in His redemptive work as our only hope.
Most of the people I have spoken with do not oppose the gospel with objections such as much of what is offered on this forum. They simply feel that they are fine without a savior, and believe they have no need of Christ in that way. They are reasonably convinced that God will have no problem with them as they are, since they certainly have not been that bad.
But the Bible tells us that outside of Christ there is no salvation. And (many of) those who come under the hearing of the gospel, faithfully preached, become convicted of their need of salvation, and cry out to God for mercy, and embrace Christ as their only and true hope.
I would otherwise wonder how we would understand grace and mercy in another way. Where would the mercy and grace come in if God weren't saving people from some horrible consequence because of their sins. It seems to be a fair question. Thanks.
Those who are called, chosen and faithful are to have the mind of Christ which is the spirit
Mat 9:37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Mat 9:38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.
Luk 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Luk 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Luk 6:36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.
It is through the kings and priests talked about both in the Old and new testaments that God will have a people on earth to bless the nations on earth ....... it is by the spirit which overcomes the flesh ON EARTH
Of cause Salvation is only for those that believe. Yet true salvation has got nothing to do with escaping from hell to heaven because you believe in Jesus. Salvation is an experience in the now from missing the mark.
I may need to have you speak a bit more on that. But when we share Christ with others, what will be the essence of what we share with them? Why is Christ what/who we need over and above anything else? Why Jesus and not someone or something else?
I told you in the post. That you cannot be helped while you are in denial. It is not saying you are condemned of God, how you and like minded evangelicals read it. Another problem with fundamentalists is how you think you have a right to judge something thought to be a sinner in another, it is none of your business, other than seeing the one missing the mark hitting the mark by faith in prayer.
There is no God holding folk over a barrel of unforgiveness because they haven't confessed their sin. That is evangelical fundamental Christians doing that, if that is calling you names and attacking you then I guess I am. Someone needs to tell you when another misses the mark, it is none of your business other than to, in prayer see them how you should as a loving follower of Jesus Christ...... hitting the mark instead of missing it.
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