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I may need to have you speak a bit more on that. But when we share Christ with others, what will be the essence of what we share with them? Why is Christ what/who we need over and above anything else? Why Jesus and not someone or something else?
That God is not holding their sin against them( the truth is he never was), so return in confidence to him, him who will put the royal robe, ring and shoes on you and act like nothing ever happened...... oh yea and don't forget the fatted calf to celebrate your return, which annoys the you know what out of those who have never understood the love of God because of their punishment, condemnation mentality.
God gave us free will. We chose disobedience, which condemned us before our holy Creator. To redeem us, He sent Christ. Without Christ, we remain under condemnation.
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He condemned, no one.
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Jesus said differently, in John 3.
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. -Jesus
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We are condemned because our creator is holy (pure) and we are sinful (impure).
Isaiah 59
2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
From Matthew Henry's commentary:
First, A certain condemnation. They are as sure to be condemned in the judgment of the great day as if they were condemned already. Secondly, A present condemnation. The curse has already taken hold of them; the wrath of God now fastens upon them. They are condemned already, for their own hearts condemn them. Thirdly, A condemnation grounded upon their former guilt: He is condemned already, for he lies open to the law for all his sins; the obligation of the law is in full force, power, and virtue, against him, because he is not by faith interested in the gospel defeasance; he is condemned already, because he has not believed. Unbelief may truly be called the great damning sin, because it leaves us under the guilt of all our other sins; it is a sin against the remedy, against our appeal.
Matthew Henry?
If you have done something to separate yourself, then you are lost - not condemned to hell.
That God is not holding their sin against them (the truth is he never was), so return in confidence to him, him who will put the royal robe, ring and shoes on you and act like nothing ever happened...... oh yea and don't forget the fatted calf to celebrate your return, which annoys the you know what out of those who have never understood the love of God because of their punishment, condemnation mentality.
I know, right? How come you and I are so smart? Luke 15 is full of stories like these.
What more does one need to know about the Nature of God, than the Parable of the Prodigal son...
he was so naughty, tsk tsk, but his father only had open arms and a kiss!
What joy when he returned...God is one big heart! ♥ Always was...
I know, right? How come you and I are so smart? Luke 15 is full of stories like these.
What more does one need to know about the Nature of God, than the Parable of the Prodigal son...
he was so naughty, tsk tsk, but his father only had open arms and a kiss!
What joy when he returned...God is one big heart! ♥ Always was...
maybe you all should read the story again..... as if the attitude of the son isn't even why the son returned in the first place.
unless there is repentance , humility, because he failed and is guilty and because of the failure the son will not return again to be even be a servant in his Fathers house unless he first repents for his own heart to get the strength to return in humility . unless he was willing to even be a servant in his fathers house the The son wouldn't be willing to return until he has truly repented and in agreement with the truth of his condition ..
you all forget all of the story , 99% of the important of that story is what it is that is going on in the son .. and only remember the Fathers response. but you forget the need for the son to come to true repentance or he would not have the strength and humility to be able to walk up to his family and return..
maybe you all should read the story again..... as if the attitude of the son isn't even why the son returned in the first place.
unless there is repentance , humility, because he failed and is guilty and because of the failure the son will not return again to be even be a servant in his Fathers house unless he first repents for his own heart to get the strength to return in humility . unless he was willing to even be a servant in his fathers house the The son wouldn't be willing to return until he has truly repented and in agreement with the truth of his condition ..
you all forget all of the story , 99% of the important of that story is what it is that is going on in the son .. and only remember the Fathers response. but you forget the need for the son to come to true repentance or he would not have the strength and humility to be able to walk up to his family and return..
Religious rhetoric from someone who is totally sin conscious. Making it 99% about us and 1% about God is about right for someone who is self conscious instead of God conscious.
O magnify the LORD with me, and let us exalt his name together.
Nah, let's magnify the wretch we think God thinks we are
but where sin abounded, grace overabounded,
maybe you all should read the story again..... as if the attitude of the son isn't even why the son returned in the first place.
unless there is repentance , humility, because he failed and is guilty and because of the failure the son will not return again to be even be a servant in his Fathers house unless he first repents for his own heart to get the strength to return in humility . unless he was willing to even be a servant in his fathers house the The son wouldn't be willing to return until he has truly repented and in agreement with the truth of his condition ..
you all forget all of the story , 99% of the important of that story is what it is that is going on in the son .. and only remember the Fathers response. but you forget the need for the son to come to true repentance or he would not have the strength and humility to be able to walk up to his family and return..
But if repentance for breaking holy laws from a holy G-d figured into the equation, then how would they save themselves? When you're already perfected/exalted to His level, which is what not recognizing a superior in authority with specific guidelines for coming into their presence (as even worldly kings maintain) over you really boils down to, what need have you of repentance? Repentance from what? After all, everything is acceptable and holy, even, right? As long as you have "love", sin should never be mentioned in the same discourse.
Without knowledge of what we have done, and repentance for it, salvation is NOT possible. Technically, we even have to repent for what we DON'T know we have done, which is why there were sins of ignorance taken into account (thank G-d) in the law. It's NOT a light matter, it's a grave (literally) thing, to repent totally from a broken heart and contrite spirit. Peace
maybe you all should read the story again.....
you all forget all of the story , 99% of the important of that story is what it is that is
going on in the son .. and only remember the Fathers response.
Nope, I didn't forget about what was going on with the son.
..or the other stories surrounding that story.
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