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Old 08-13-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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It would have been a much bigger sacrifice to sacrifice your son instead of yourself.
Hanni, sorry, but no. Any parent who thinks that sacrificing their child (literally or figuratively) in order to "please God" was a bigger sacrifice for themselves than their child, or that they have the right to force or even ask that child to be a sacrifice, is mentally unstable and/or completely selfish.

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But whose son was it really?
We are ALL God's children. Doesn't mean we should go around sacrificing each other.

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Old 08-13-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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Gotta love blood and canabal cults.
It's not what someone believes that bothers me, it's what they act upon that concerns me.
You wouldn't skydive from 12-15,000 feet without a parachute - it would be a mindless act.


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Old 08-13-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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I am the truth, the way, and the life!
I am the truth, the way, and the blood?

I suppose, people just have to have their sacrifice.
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No, but G-d does. Make of yourselves a living SACRIFICE. Peace
There has to be a balance: Don't be so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly good.
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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There has to be a balance: Don't be so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly good.

I've heard that before, but since the oil flows from the HEAD to the feet naturally, I don't think it's anything to live by. Peace
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Also, I no longer look for spiritual symbolism in the bible.
If it comes, it comes, and I allow/welcome it, but I don't seek it, because I'm seeking to grow in my relationship with what is Real.
But, I have been into bible symbolism in the past, and at the time, some of it was edifying
in that it did stir up the desire for a relationship with what is Real, for me.
I loved this. Boy, am i getting to know you better...you really have a head on your shoulders.
Brava....I mean, right on!
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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Jerwade, Saying to a Judeo-Christian that it is preposterous for an Infinite Being, loving beyond our imagination, dwelling in the highest frequency of light and love eternally, called by many as Bliss, Heaven, Paradise, would want blood of an animal or His son who manifested here to teach and help us ...is pretty much a waste of time, my spiritual buddy.

Sure, once he was murdered he made the best of it to continue his teaching for us ...that
there is no death ...but the culture of this blood sacrifice being needed is too ingrained in
the psyche, still, for some. Sorry, my friend.
No need to apologize - the writing is on the wall for all to read.
It's just that some of us walk away with a greater understanding.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Hanni, sorry, but no. Any parent who thinks that sacrificing their child (literally or figuratively) in order to "please God" was a bigger sacrifice for themselves than their child, or that they have the right to force or even ask that child to be a sacrifice, is mentally unstable and/or completely selfish.



We are ALL God's children. Doesn't mean we should go around sacrificing each other.
I speak for a father who would willingly give his life, and I tell you that it would be an easy thing to take my own life, but it would be the biggest sacrifice form me to kill my own child. It would be an easy choice if it was between me and my child. It would be a much greater sacrifice if God asked me to kill my child instead of myself. I could kill myself easily but to ask for my child is something else.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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I speak for a father who would willingly give his life, and I tell you that it would be an easy thing to take my own life, but it would be the biggest sacrifice form me to kill my own child. It would be an easy choice if it was between me and my child. It would be a much greater sacrifice if God asked me to kill my child instead of myself. I could kill myself easily but to ask for my child is something else.
If you believe that God would ask any parent to kill their child as a sacrifice to please God or prove their allegiance, I don't understand why you would want to align yourself with it. That would be like the Nazi soldier being willing to kill to prove to Hitler that he was loyal.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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If you believe that God would ask any parent to kill their child as a sacrifice to please God or prove their allegiance, I don't understand why you would want to align yourself with it. That would be like the Nazi soldier being willing to kill to prove to Hitler that he was loyal.

NO, it wouldn't because you all are forgetting the "invisible" factor here that is the most important: the motive of the heart. You cannot accuse G-d of having a wrong motive on this, when it's obvious that the scene portrays salvation and the resurrection from the dead, CAN YOU? Peace
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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I speak for a father who would willingly give his life, and I tell you that it would be an easy thing to take my own life, but it would be the biggest sacrifice form me to kill my own child. It would be an easy choice if it was between me and my child. It would be a much greater sacrifice if God asked me to kill my child instead of myself. I could kill myself easily but to ask for my child is something else.
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If you believe that God would ask any parent to kill their child as a sacrifice to please God or prove their allegiance, I don't understand why you would want to align yourself with it. That would be like the Nazi soldier being willing to kill to prove to Hitler that he was loyal.
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NO, it wouldn't because you all are forgetting the "invisible" factor here that is the most important: the motive of the heart. You cannot accuse G-d of having a wrong motive on this, when it's obvious that the scene portrays salvation and the resurrection from the dead, CAN YOU? Peace
The motive of my heart from a position of love would be to lay down my own life, not that of another.
Your
excessive or erotic interest in oneself and their narcissistic beliefs are not impressing anyone.
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