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Old 10-18-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Not animals and not each individual. Bad people are wolves and follow Satan's lead. The sheep are the ones obedient to God and are a target of the "wolves".

Each of us decides if we are a wolf or a sheep and most chose wolf.

There is a goat in your left hand and there is a sheep in the right, and when Jesus comes separating the two, it is completely within you, you are both. Whether one is good or bad, he has a serpent within him, but not everyone is a wolf.


Those scriptures are also showing the difference between Gentile and Jew.


Those scriptures of those animals are just depicting the evolution of what man becomes when God comes and takes the evil flesh away. Men are depicted as several different animals all the way through the bible and Paul even tells us that when it is speaking of oxen, it is speaking of people, not oxen, what is written for oxen was written for man.




1 Corinthians
Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10Isn’t He actually speaking on our behalf? Indeed, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they should also expect to share in the harvest.…


In the west, there is two oxen yoked together and with them is a wolf, And this is Ephraim, Manasseh and Benjamin. The 3 stand as one.
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Old 10-18-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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And a wolf shall live with a lamb, and a leopard shall lie with a kid; and a calf and a lion cub and a fatling [shall lie] together, and a small child shall lead them.





From yeshayahu (isaiah)

I need help in understanding who this wolf is.


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A wolf is a predator that kills sheep.

Notice that in each section of the quoted scripture a predator lives in close vicinity to its traditional prey. It isn't only the wolf that's described here. The leopard and the lion are mentioned as well. Most defenseless of all is the human child, which is depicted as being leader of all the animals.

In terms of the world as we know it, this passage is obviously a depiction of an unrealistic relationship between predator and prey and between a innocent human child and cunning animals.

Also obvious is that the passage is making reference to an idealistic world with a different sort of relationship between its inhabitants both animal and human.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
~ISAIAH the 11TH CHAPTER~

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.


7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.


8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.


9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.


11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.


12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.


13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.


14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.


15 And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.


16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.


KJV
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pinacled
And a wolf shall live with a lamb, and a leopard shall lie with a kid; and a calf and a lion cub and a fatling [shall lie] together, and a small child shall lead them.





From yeshayahu (isaiah)

I need help in understanding who this wolf is.




~ISAIAH the 11TH CHAPTER~

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.


7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.


8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.


9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.


11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.


12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.


13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.


14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.


15 And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.


16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.


KJV
A gorgeous picture.
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Old 10-18-2017, 04:11 PM
 
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speaking of wisdom in the evening of the Soul
Mountains and Hills
sons and daughters
A woman shall encompass a man.
…"Set up for yourself roadmarks, Place for yourself guideposts; Direct your mind to the highway, The way by which you went. Return, O virgin of Israel, Return to these your cities. "How long will you go here and there, O faithless daughter? For the LORD has created a new thing in the earth-- A woman will encompass a man." Thus says the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, "Once again they will speak this word in the land of Judah and in its cities when I restore their fortunes, 'The LORD bless you, O abode of righteousness, O holy hill!'…

father
If] I take up the wings of dawn, [if] I dwell at the end of the west,
There too, Your hand will lead me, and Your right hand will grasp me.


son
Covering Yourself with light as with a cloak, Stretching out heaven like a tent curtain.
'Who is this that grows like the dawn, As beautiful as the full moon, As pure as the sun, As awesome as an army with banners?'
444

And the dove returned to him at eventide, and behold it had plucked an olive leaf in its mouth; so Noah knew that the water had abated from upon the earth.
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Old 10-18-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pinacled
And a wolf shall live with a lamb, and a leopard shall lie with a kid; and a calf and a lion cub and a fatling [shall lie] together, and a small child shall lead them.





From yeshayahu (isaiah)

I need help in understanding who this wolf is.




~ISAIAH the 11TH CHAPTER~

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.


7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.


8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.


9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.


11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.


12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.


13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.


14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.


15 And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.


16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.


KJV
I wonder if it should read heifer and she bear....?


After all we are made in the image of the Lord.
Male and Female.

Having two eyes each to seek the Lord.
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:09 PM
 
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And the dove returned to him at eventide, and behold it had plucked an olive leaf in its mouth; so Noah knew that the water had abated from upon the earth.

Something of evening wisdom
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:37 PM
 
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There is a goat in your left hand and there is a sheep in the right, and when Jesus comes separating the two, it is completely within you, you are both. Whether one is good or bad, he has a serpent within him, but not everyone is a wolf.


Those scriptures are also showing the difference between Gentile and Jew.


Those scriptures of those animals are just depicting the evolution of what man becomes when God comes and takes the evil flesh away. Men are depicted as several different animals all the way through the bible and Paul even tells us that when it is speaking of oxen, it is speaking of people, not oxen, what is written for oxen was written for man.




1 Corinthians
Doesn’t the Law say the same thing? 9For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God is concerned? 10Isn’t He actually speaking on our behalf? Indeed, this was written for us, because when the plowman plows and the thresher threshes, they should also expect to share in the harvest.…


In the west, there is two oxen yoked together and with them is a wolf, And this is Ephraim, Manasseh and Benjamin. The 3 stand as one.
I really Love this so much.


…13"Son of man, if a country sins against Me by committing unfaithfulness, and I stretch out My hand against it, destroy its supply of bread, send famine against it and cut off from it both man and beast, 14even though these three men, Noah, Daniel and Job were in its midst, by their own righteousness they could only deliver themselves," declares the Lord GOD.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:10 PM
 
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I really Love this so much.


…13"Son of man, if a country sins against Me by committing unfaithfulness, and I stretch out My hand against it, destroy its supply of bread, send famine against it and cut off from it both man and beast, 14even though these three men, Noah, Daniel and Job were in its midst, by their own righteousness they could only deliver themselves," declares the Lord GOD.
Three gates ?
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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It has nothing to do with food.


Just like people who look and think of a food shortage when it says,'' a pound of barley for this and a pound of wheat for that but do not hurt the oil and the wine.''


It isn't talking about a food shortage, it is discussing 3 types of people in 3 types of harvests to God.


Isaiah is not insinuating that a lion will eat straw, or that we wont kill animals anymore, it is speaking of the tribes of Israel and who and what is, and who and what isn't.

It had nothing to do with food.

No MENSA membership required for this.......and yes it does relate to food, the big predators will eat grass and be in peace during millenium.........read all about it......

Isaiah 65:25King James Version (KJV)

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.
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Old 10-19-2017, 01:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pinacled
And a wolf shall live with a lamb, and a leopard shall lie with a kid; and a calf and a lion cub and a fatling [shall lie] together, and a small child shall lead them.





From yeshayahu (isaiah)

I need help in understanding who this wolf is.




~ISAIAH the 11TH CHAPTER~

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.


7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.


8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.


9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.


11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.


12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.


13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.


14 But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west; they shall spoil them of the east together: they shall lay their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them.


15 And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.


16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.


KJV
Amen !!!!!!!!!
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