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Old 09-09-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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It may be one of your favorite verses, however, Christ Jesus is not the eternal or everlasting Father.
The word father means ' life giver ' (Not life taker).
Because God resurrected Jesus out of the grave Acts 2:27; Acts 2:24 then Jesus was given the keys over death as per Revelation 1:18. Since God gives the resurrection power to Jesus, then in that sense Jesus is Eternal or Everlasting Father ( life giver). Not that Jesus is God but that his God gives Jesus the power to restore life and he will.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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well, the universe was here before him and after him, so I am not sure where the whole living and dieing comes in. for any of us really.
'dying comes in ' because of rebellion.
Rebel Adam broke God's No trespassing Law which carried with it capital punishment, the death penalty.
As our fallen father, Adam then passed on to us his defective nature and that ends with death in view.
Since we can Not resurrect oneself or another then we need someone who can do that for us. Jesus can and will.
Jesus will undo all the damage Satan and Adam brought upon us, and our ' last enemy death ' will be brought to nothing according to 1st Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Perhaps, you just don't know as much as you think you do.
Too soon to rep.
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Old 09-09-2017, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The word father means ' life giver ' (Not life taker).
Because God resurrected Jesus out of the grave Acts 2:27; Acts 2:24 then Jesus was given the keys over death as per Revelation 1:18. Since God gives the resurrection power to Jesus, then in that sense Jesus is Eternal or Everlasting Father ( life giver). Not that Jesus is God but that his God gives Jesus the power to restore life and he will.
Hezekiah comes to mind according to the Jews for Judaism.
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:05 PM
 
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Hezekiah comes to mind according to the Jews for Judaism.
I find that God did extend Hezekiah's life according to the 28th chapter of Isaiah and Hezekiah did recover.
But since God resurrected Jesus then ' healing ' was given to Jesus to heal earth's nations - Rev. 22:2.
With healing comes No more enemy death as per 1st Cor. 15:26; Isaiah 25:8.
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:08 PM
 
Location: New England
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The answer is in your bible . If you have seen me( not a jewish looking man with a beard) you have seen the Father. If it wasn't a jewish lookin man with a beard they beheld as the Father(and did not know t) , then what was it ?. Come on Rbi, pinacled, daqq and bible slave drivers, what was it?, a living revelatio of the bible ? That is precisely the answer i would have given 20 years ago.
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Old 09-09-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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Jesus Christ is both the Son of God and God. He is part of the Holy Trinity: God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit.

So yes, He is God manifested in the flesh as an earthly human, born to the Virgin Mary, and then viciously executed on a cross so He could die for our sins (substitutionary penal atonement). He is humanity's Savior, He is our Savior.

But then, He was resurrected on the third day, and reunited with His father after spending 40 days on Earth, and is now in Heaven, sitting at the right hand of God the Father. Praise the Lord!
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Old 09-09-2017, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Jesus Christ is both the Son of God and God. He is part of the Holy Trinity: God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit.

So yes, He is God manifested in the flesh as an earthly human, born to the Virgin Mary, and then viciously executed on a cross so He could die for our sins (substitutionary penal atonement). He is humanity's Savior, He is our Savior.

But then, He was resurrected on the third day, and reunited with His father after spending 40 days on Earth, and is now in Heaven, sitting at the right hand of God the Father. Praise the Lord!
You have the sheen of a newly-minted Christian.
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Old 09-09-2017, 09:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You have the sheen of a newly-minted Christian.

I just started going back to church a month ago, felt I needed to improve my relationship with God.
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Old 09-10-2017, 07:07 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Jesus Christ is both the Son of God and God. He is part of the Holy Trinity: God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit.

So yes, He is God manifested in the flesh as an earthly human, born to the Virgin Mary, and then viciously executed on a cross so He could die for our sins (substitutionary penal atonement). He is humanity's Savior, He is our Savior.

But then, He was resurrected on the third day, and reunited with His father after spending 40 days on Earth, and is now in Heaven, sitting at the right hand of God the Father. Praise the Lord!

That can only be known through God's Word, through the Holy Spirit, the inspired Holy Bible.
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