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Old 10-15-2017, 06:46 AM
 
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it really doesn't 'send it". You only become 'aware" of it. Like a child becomes aware enough that we let them drive a car. "driving" has always been there. Well, for kids today that is.

And we are kids in the universe.

Religion is just a set of guidelines. Like driving rules, one set of rules do not fit every vehicle under all conditions. But there are general rules that are found through all driving (like souling). And we are all vehicles to the lord aren't we? so you guys tell us anyway.

 
Old 10-15-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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it really doesn't 'send it". You only become 'aware" of it. Like a child becomes aware enough that we let them drive a car. "driving" has always been there. Well, for kids today that is.

And we are kids in the universe.

Religion is just a set of guidelines. Like driving rules, one set of rules do not fit every vehicle under all conditions. But there are general rules that are found through all driving (like souling). And we are all vehicles to the lord aren't we? so you guys tell us anyway.
If truth be understood, yes you are right. At some point we become aware of the HS, and we call it by various names. Some go nuclear in their zealousness and start proclaiming they are SAVED based on the fact they have some relationship with this inner voice or HS.
Others deny it as being rationale and ignore it most of the time.
Still, some will twist what they "hear" and challenge the voice in an attempt to silence the voice the cannot explain.

I truly believe one does not have to be "RELIGIOUS" or a card carrying fundamentalist to hear...we will either respond positively to the "voice" and do our best to assist others in various ways or we refuse the "voice" and let others suffer and struggle because we use the written word to justify our callousness.

Paul, the poster child for fundamentalism is a prime example..As a HUGE SINNER, walking down the street, he HEARD and became AWARE while he was still a SINNER and outside the "Church."
 
Old 10-15-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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If truth be understood, yes you are right. At some point we become aware of the HS, and we call it by various names. Some go nuclear in their zealousness and start proclaiming they are SAVED based on the fact they have some relationship with this inner voice or HS.
Others deny it as being rationale and ignore it most of the time.
Still, some will twist what they "hear" and challenge the voice in an attempt to silence the voice the cannot explain.

I truly believe one does not have to be "RELIGIOUS" or a card carrying fundamentalist to hear...we will either respond positively to the "voice" and do our best to assist others in various ways or we refuse the "voice" and let others suffer and struggle because we use the written word to justify our callousness.

Paul, the poster child for fundamentalism is a prime example..As a HUGE SINNER, walking down the street, he HEARD and became AWARE while he was still a SINNER and outside the "Church."
Some people hear and respond to the Spirit in and because of a church.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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Some people hear and respond to the Spirit in and because of a church.
Well Jimmie J...my personal experience says 90% of those who hear and respond t the Spirit in and because of "church" are rejecting the "voice" and let others suffer and struggle because they use the written word to justify their callousness.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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When you do the things which you know are good and right, you are not in need that someone else tell you.
So it would seem to be so easy, eh?




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Old 10-15-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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Well Jimmie J...my personal experience says 90% of those who hear and respond t the Spirit in and because of "church" are rejecting the "voice" and let others suffer and struggle because they use the written word to justify their callousness.
Amen!
 
Old 10-15-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Well Jimmie J...my personal experience says 90% of those who hear and respond t the Spirit in and because of "church" are rejecting the "voice" and let others suffer and struggle because they use the written word to justify their callousness.
Hmmm...My experience has been different. My church saw 200+ people saved and baptized in 2016, all while we operate a medical and dental clinic for the poor, a food pantry for the poor, winter coats for the poor, divorce care, single moms care, adopting and fostering unwanted kids, after-school care for at-risk kids, building schools and churches and well, you get the point. All funded by the church.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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Hmmm...My experience has been different. My church saw 200+ people saved and baptized in 2016, all while we operate a medical and dental clinic for the poor, a food pantry for the poor, winter coats for the poor, divorce care, single moms care, adopting and fostering unwanted kids, after-school care for at-risk kids, building schools and churches and well, you get the point. All funded by the church.
200+! My o' MY that narrow gate continues to get WIDER does it not?

Why are there so many people in need in your community Jimmie J? May be the church should look at creating EMPLOYMENT and PROVIDING EDUCATION for these folks to become independent and provide for their families?

And if there are that many unwanted kids in the community, something s terribly wrong with the message of your church..

And with divorce rates and single moms (sounds like am epidemic) in your community, why is the church not "teaching" the men to have some FINANCIAL and FAMILIAL responsibility for their children????
 
Old 10-15-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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200+! My o' MY that narrow gate continues to get WIDER does it not?

Why are there so many people in need in your community Jimmie J? May be the church should look at creating EMPLOYMENT and PROVIDING EDUCATION for these folks to become independent and provide for their families?

And if there are that many unwanted kids in the community, something s terribly wrong with the message of your church..

And with divorce rates and single moms (sounds like am epidemic) in your community, why is the church not "teaching" the men to have some FINANCIAL and FAMILIAL responsibility for their children????
I see you are attempting to change the subject. You don’t really care about the spiritual condition of people. Rather, you care only about your liberal politics.

*I live in a metro area with ~3 million people.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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I see you are attempting to change the subject. You don’t really care about the spiritual condition of people. Rather, you care only about your liberal politics.

*I live in a metro area with ~3 million people.
politics? that is your use of words..I have posted nothing that indicates politics..this is your foolish attempt to close a thread you are unable to participate in due to your limited understanding and inability to discuss the difference between "religion"and salvation.
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