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John 5:22 - "For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,
John 5:26 - "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;
John 5:27 - and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man.
John 5:30 - "I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
There is a reason that God chooses to use the terms "Father" and "Son" to describe their relationship. Jesus came from the Father. Jesus' deity is rooted in the authority given to Him from the Father.
What did God say from heaven?
Matthew 3:17 - and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased."
The Father does call Jesus "God" in Hebrews 1. So Jesus is full deity and is equal with God - from our vantage point... but the Father is above the Son.
At the end of the day - I give them both my full faith and worship. These are minor details, in which I have no control, that will come to light at the proper time.
Careful, now. That's bordering on heresy there. Jesus is eternal, and has always been God. Yes, for a time he set aside his authority, and the Son does proceed from the Father as the 2nd person of the Trinity, but there was never a time that Jesus was not God.
Careful, now. That's bordering on heresy there. Jesus is eternal and has always been God. Yes, for a time he set aside his authority, and the Son does proceed from the Father as the 2nd person of the Trinity, but there was never a time that Jesus was not God.
Then how can anything He accomplished be of any import to us??? God can do anything by merely thinking it. He cannot die or suffer anything. How could He NOT be pleased with Himself? Your dogma is irrational. Jesus is one of us. He is the first one of us to be born again as Spirit. His human spirit became one with God by achieving perfect resonance (Identity). When He died His Human spirit was born again as the Holy Spirit and connected all human spirits to God. He became available to us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts."
Then how can anything He accomplished be of any import to us??? God can do anything by merely thinking it. He cannot die or suffer anything. How could He NOT be pleased with Himself? Your dogma is irrational. Jesus is one of us. He is the first one of us to be born again as Spirit. His human spirit became one with God by achieving perfect resonance (Identity). When He died His Human spirit was born again as the Holy Spirit and connected all human spirits to God. He became available to us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts."
Our job is not to rationalize and try to make God human. Our job is to believe what he has said about himself. I would suggest you spend some time studying what he has said about himself in his Word.
Then how can anything He accomplished be of any import to us??? God can do anything by merely thinking it. He cannot die or suffer anything. How could He NOT be pleased with Himself? Your dogma is irrational. Jesus is one of us. He is the first one of us to be born again as Spirit. His human spirit became one with God by achieving perfect resonance (Identity). When He died His Human spirit was born again as the Holy Spirit and connected all human spirits to God. He became available to us as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts."
This is outright heresy. And once again you simply ignore not only what the apostles said concerning the deity of Jesus, but you also ignore the fact that Jesus Himself claimed to be God.
Jesus didn't die as God. He died as a man. The fact that deity is not subject to death is one of the reasons why the second person of the Trinity. . .the pre-incarnate Word had to become a man. And the only reason why Jesus' spiritual death, (for it was His spiritual death, not His physical death, that paid the penalty for our sins), was able to satisfy the perfect righteousness of God is because since Jesus is God, His spiritual death as a man had infinite value. For that reason, the three hours, from 12 noon until 3 pm in which He was judicially bearing our sins, the sins of the entire human race, and being judged for those sins provided salvation for all who place their faith in Christ Jesus.
Of course you reject all of what I just said. But again, many of your views are neither Biblical or Christian.
Our job is not to rationalize and try to make God human. Our job is to believe what he has said about himself. I would suggest you spend some time studying what he has said about himself in his Word.
And that BP is what fundamentalists have done,they have created God in their own image.
Our job is not to rationalize and try to make God human. Our job is to believe what he has said about himself. I would suggest you spend some time studying what he has said about himself in his Word.
It is NOT a sin to be born, what made Jesus unique is that he kept the Torah perfectly, which no other person in time has been able to do and that is what made him the Messiah. He didnt need a virgin birth not to sin.
Are you saying that if a newborn baby dies, it is deserving of Hell? What has it done to deserve this?
We discussed that in another thread. Babies are born with the disease of sin, but it hasn’t manifested itself yet.
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