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Old 02-08-2018, 11:58 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Satan is beyond excellent at twisting scripture......he started in the garden.....and usually appeals to our pride......IE we're at least as smart as God.......it's laughable but people buy it.......and we have 30,000_
+ "denominations" with all but one being wrong........
Roll the die and pick one. SO god will destroy those who choose wrong? How benevolent and merciful is that.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Can UNBELIEVERS understand the Bible?

Who says believers understand it? People's interpretation of the written words is not universal.
The truth of the bible is written in a hidden language so that very few people could read it and understand. It is the same language Jesus came speaking in parables and that is why very few people understand parables. Each parable has 3 meanings, and each person who reads it thinks that they understand it whether they are Atheist or believers, but all they understand is a mask that covers the truth.


The proof in this hidden language can be proven by one person writing in this language and another person being able to read it.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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Roll the die and pick one. SO god will destroy those who choose wrong? How benevolent and merciful is that.
I guess when you are some lowly camel herder in a desert located in the most violent part of the world (then and now) your logic and reasoning gets twisted.

Up is down
Left is right
Orange is really blue
- yes, this sums up biblical 'logic'
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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The "truth"
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of the bible is written in a hidden language so that very few people could read it and understand. It is the same language Jesus came speaking in parables and that is why very few people understand parables. Each parable has 3 meanings, and each person who reads it thinks that they understand it whether they are Atheist or believers, but all they understand is a mask that covers the truth.


The proof in this hidden language can be proven by one person writing in this language and another person being able to read it.
So "Yahweh" just likes to play mind games, and if you lose, into the firey pit you go.

Abusive parents and spouses often do the very same thing!
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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The truth of the bible is written in a hidden language so that very few people could read it and understand. It is the same language Jesus came speaking in parables and that is why very few people understand parables. Each parable has 3 meanings, and each person who reads it thinks that they understand it whether they are Atheist or believers, but all they understand is a mask that covers the truth.


The proof in this hidden language can be proven by one person writing in this language and another person being able to read it.
They could not understand parables because they were ARROGANT and BIGOTED, much like many in the church today.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: SE corner of the Ozark Redoubt
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I guess the unbelievers here are still proving
they cannot understand the Scriptures.
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Fixed that for you



So "Yahweh" just likes to play mind games, and if you lose, into the firey pit you go.

Abusive parents and spouses often do the very same thing!
There is no firey pit, those are Jewish idioms about the feast of Tabernacles. I personally believe in a very broad salvation, but salvation alone sucks, we are in a race seeking a better resurrection, we don't just seek salvation, we seek reward.


The house you are building is a resurrection body


10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

The fire will indeed come and test all men, and some will stand in the flames and untouched by those flames to receive the reward they have earned themselves, and these get to keep their work, but notice what sort of work that it is, we are building a house on a sure foundation.

Salvation is just mere salvation where you are sent to the outer court of Gentiles called the outer court of darkness where you weep and gnash your teeth having died in a fire after being tested. But reward means that your house will stand in the flames untouched because you have raised a full grown son of God through the milk of the word until he could eat the meat of the feast days.

You are given a seed to till, plant and grow, and even though Paul was there teaching people himself, he remained perplexed and confused because they could not commit to studying the law and prophets fast enough for Christ to ever be formed in them. Paul said they were his children, his babies until such a time came that Christ could one day be formed in them as a new born son, and this is to be born again.

But woe unto those with children and weaning children in that day because God cannot give unlimited power to a baby still on milk. Our job here is to raise the sons of God and it is a personal choice, you either raise that child to maturity or you don't. This earth is simply made to expand God. God plants a seed and let's the individual grow that seed into maturity where he becomes a new creature, NO LONGER JUST HUMAN.

God will give wisdom to all who ask and to everyone who seeks his face, but he wont force you to raise your own child.

You have been made the keeper over the household of God to give the children of God meat in due season because you were given a seed to die and bear fruit in the harvests appointed for you to raise and rear a son of God. It is completely up to you whether or not you will starve that child to death or raise him to maturity.

But the wicked servant who doesn't even know the appointed comings and goings of his own master will begin to abuse those in his own household and he will starve the children of God from the meat and they remain babies because they don't even know the days of their own visitation.

God has demanded that a woman should give birth to a full grown man, who has heard of such a thing?


Jeremiah 31
"How long will you go here and there, O faithless daughter? For the LORD has created a new thing in the earth-- A woman will encompass a man."

This earth is to raise brethren of Christ, not brides of Christ. Christ was the firstfruit of many sons to follow, the very first son of a brand new kingdom of many sons, many BRETHREN.

These firstfruits who have overcome the world and became priests of God who are brethren of Christ, they receive all the promises that God gave to Jesus, and THEY ALSO shall rule an entire earth.

I am convinced that because we are here, we have fallen here as the bottom tier of the temple{The outer court/A third of the temple} will always fall and always has fallen, and for all pretenses and purposes, THIS IS HELL.

THIS IS the outer court.

THIS IS where we have fallen.

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Old 02-08-2018, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Fixed that for you



So "Yahweh" just likes to play mind games, and if you lose, into the firey pit you go.

Abusive parents and spouses often do the very same thing!
Hannibal lives in his own little revisionist history world, Nobody pays attention any more.
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:17 AM
 
Location: US
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Fixed that for you



So "Yahweh" just likes to play mind games, and if you lose, into the firey pit you go.

Abusive parents and spouses often do the very same thing!
You’re not very educated, are you?...
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Fixed that for you



So "Yahweh" just likes to play mind games, and if you lose, into the firey pit you go.

Abusive parents and spouses often do the very same thing!
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You’re not very educated, are you?...
You must mean NOT buying into patently absurd "explanations" like "mandating vicious practices like stoning people to death REALLY teaches mercy."
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