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Old 01-01-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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One thing that you’re wrong about:


The earliest of these flat-Earth promoters was the African Lactantius (AD 245-325), a professional rhetorician who converted to Christianity mid-life.

He rejected all the Greek philosophers, and in doing so also rejected a spherical Earth. His views were considered heresy by the Church Fathers and his work was ignored until the Renaissance (at which time some humanists revived his writings as a model of good Latin, and of course, his flat Earth view also was revived). - https://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c034.html
On the contrary. The flat earth concept is a part of the Ancient Near East cosmology and is embedded in the Hebrew Bible. Good grief. Do some actual research.
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:29 PM
 
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Are you going to simply disregard the fact that the New Testament writers stated plainly that Jesus is God? Did you read my post, #3?

And here is a list of quotes from some of the early church fathers in which they affirm that Jesus is God.

https://www.str.org/blog/nine-early-...d#.WkreYVWnGM8
I thought you said Jesus claimed to be G-d, now you’re saying that it was the New Testament writers that claimed that he was G-d...Which is it?...
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:30 PM
 
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On the contrary. The flat earth concept is a part of the Ancient Near East cosmology and is embedded in the Hebrew Bible. Good grief. Do some actual research.
You’re wrong about that...Bet you got it from a Christian source...
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:32 PM
 
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I thought you said Jesus claimed to be G-d, now you’re saying that it was the New Testament writers that claimed that he was G-d...Which is it?...
Everything that Jesus said was recorded by the New Testament writers. As was already shown, the New Testament writers quoted Jesus' statement pertaining to His deity. As well, the New Testament writers, John, Paul, the writer of Hebrews, all stated that Jesus is God.
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:34 PM
 
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You’re wrong about that...Bet you got it from a Christian source...
It's in the Hebrew Bible. You know. . . the Tanack. The flat earth, the pillars of heaven, and all the rest of it is in your Tanack.
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:34 PM
 
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It's in the Hebrew Bible. You know. . . the Tanack. The flat earth, the pillars of heaven, and all the rest of it is in your Tanack.
Where?...
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Old 01-01-2018, 06:37 PM
 
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Everything that Jesus said was recorded by the New Testament writers. As was already shown, the New Testament writers quoted Jesus' statement pertaining to His deity. As well, the New Testament writers, John, Paul, the writer of Hebrews, all stated that Jesus is God.
No they didn’t...You are twisting it to say so...And how could the writers of the NT quote some one that they never met?...
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Old 01-01-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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No they didn’t...You are twisting it to say so...And how could the writers of the NT quote some one that they never met?...
You're playing games. Jesus is stated to be God in John 1:1, Phil. 2:5-6, and Hebrews 1:8-13.

The writer of John was an eyewitness of Jesus as stated in John 21:20-24. Paul encountered the risen Jesus, more than once. The writer of Hebrews is unknown, but believed that Jesus was God.

Seriously, I have had it you and your disingenuous attitude and games. You know damn well that the New Testament states that Jesus is God. Grow up.
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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again your opinions mean jack to the christians here Richard does not believe in jesus and christianity he cannot be an ambassador to christianity and the claim that christianity copy paganism is new age nonsense
My opinion?


Christians didn't adopt high Holy Pagan days of Tammuz?
Christians didn't change God's Sabbaths to the venerable day of the sun?
Christians didn't reject all the feasts, traditions, and rituals of Jesus to take on the feasts, traditions and rituals of devils?


Go look again, EVERYONE knows That Christianity converted to Paganism when their hate for Jews drove their hate for God and the ways of Messiah.


You can say Jesus all day long but your hands tell the truth.
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Old 01-01-2018, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Post #34 (edited above) appears to be a source of concern involving Jews trying to antagonize Christians. I see nothing productive by the above talk, and as a Christian, consider it out of line. Like Meester Chung said, we probably don't see the reverse case in action (Christians projecting this kind of talk and attitude onto the Judaism subforum).
I am a Christians, I am a Gentile.


Whether you have the propensity to believe historical fact is up in the air, Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 years.


You left, but you can't change the fact that true Christians ARE CONVERTS OF JUDAISM.
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