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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
Carnal thinking is what leads to the misunderstanding of the spiritual import of the inspirations from God. Focus on the body and its desires is misguided. Focus on the control of the desires that hurt or harm others directly or indirectly. That should be our spiritual focus. And our focus should be on OUR spiritual growth, NOT what others are doing or not.
Colossians 2:19,
. . . If you have died with Christ to the elements of the world, why, as if still living in the world, do you lay down the rules . . . Things that must all perish in their very use? In this, you follow the 'precepts and doctrines of men.
Jeremias, 8:8
. . . How do you say: We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Indeed the lying pen of the Scribes hath wrought falsehood. The wise men are confounded, they are dismayed and taken . . . and there is no wisdom in them. They are confounded because they have committed abomination: yea rather they are not confounded with confusion.
Romans 14:13-14 King James Version (KJV)
13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
Spiritual thinking is what separates us from the animals. Animals do not develop attitudes or abstract philosophies to guide and direct their behavior. They merely assess each separate course of action on the spot to determine which response is least painful or more pleasurable and react accordingly. (Evaluate your own actions against this animalistic model.)
Paul in his epistle to the Colossians warned of this approach, 2:18,
. . . Let no-one cheat you who takes pleasure in self-abasement and worship of the angels, and enters vainly into what he has not seen, puffed up by his mere human mind. . . In this, you follow the 'precepts and doctrines of men,' which, to be sure, have a show of wisdom in superstition and self-abasement and hard treatment of the body, but are not to be held in esteem, and lead to the full gratification of the flesh.
The "show of wisdom" refers to the correctness of the principle of control of our behaviors. Everyone who adopts an ascetic lifestyle does not have the wrong attitude. But for those who do it out of love of self and not others, their reasons or attitudes corrupt the result and virtually assure failure. This, it seems to me, can be an especially tragic error for those misguided souls who adopt this lifestyle with every good intention of fulfilling God's purpose.
All the angst about sin proceeds from the mistaken notion that sins are a violation of God's laws and that there will therefore be a punishment for them emanating from the wrath of God. This is utter nonsense. Sins are selfish and inconsiderate responses to our drives that satisfy US . . . but result in harm to others. They stifle the growth of our spiritual awareness and sensitivity in favor of our carnal enjoyment. (We feed our animal needs and starve our spiritual needs.) This is counter to God's desire for us . . . since our purpose is to develop a strong enough spiritual embryo to be reborn as Spirit at our death. Failure has negative consequences . . . but they are not a punishment.
Understanding that our true purpose here is to develop spiritually while surviving by satisfying our carnal needs should produce a more enlightened view of our predicament. We would not have carnally pleasurable experiences if they were prohibited or "sinful" in their own right. It is the indiscriminate pursuit and enjoyment of those pleasures REGARDLESS OF THEIR CONSEQUENCES TO OTHERS . . . that is sinful. This why the injunction to "love each other" is so much more encompassing than a mere ten commandments. Love will not allow us to harm others just to please ourselves so it covers far more circumstances.
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The bride of the Holy One has no other ba,alim.
It's a language mystic.
Sensuality is also a part of adultry. And as a man you should lay aside all that the satan has lied to you about.
Pretty much everything you have read that was perverted during a time when a table of nations traded wives.
This world and it's seductive ways of destruction are washed in the mikvah of the heart. And once the cup is cleansed on the inside what is next?
The Spirit prophecy is the Testimony of Christ.
Any other will be tested and destroyed by every idle word.
What many of the offspring of the evil will attempt. Is to quench the gift of Our Redeemer by any means of guile possible. Even in attacking the foundation of the plain reading of the message.
Kehillah in Colossae 3Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB)
3 If therefore you were made to stand up alive in hitkhadshut with Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach, seek the things above, where Moshiach is, LI’MINI ("at my right hand" TEHILLIM 110:1), sitting at the right hand of Hashem.
2 Place your machshavot (thoughts) above (in Shomayim), not on the things of the Olam Hazeh.
3 For you died and the Chayyim of you has become nistar (hidden, 2:3) with Moshiach in Hashem.
4 When Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach who is Chayyeinu (our Life) is made manifest in hisgalus (revelation), then also you with Him will be made manifest in hisgalus in kavod.
5 Therefore, put to death your evarim (members) in the Olam Hazeh: zenut (fornication), debauchery, sensuality, zimmah (licentiousness), and chamdanut (covetousness), which is avodah zarah (idolatry).
6 Because of such things as these the charon af Hashem habah (the coming burning wrath of Hashem) is on the way.
7 Such was your derech to fier zich (comport oneself), the derech resha’im formerly [TEHILLIM 1:6], when you were living in these things.
8 But now you also put away all these things: ka’as (anger), rage, kavvanah ra’ah (malice) chillul Hashem (blasphemy). Put away loshon hora from your mouth.
9 Do not speak sheker to one another, having disrobed from the Adam hakadmoni (old [unregenerated] humanity) with his ma’asim (works),
10 And instead enrobe with the Adam HaChadash, the one being renewed in da’as in accordance with the demut (1:15; BERESHIS 1:26-27; Pp 2:6) of the One having created him.
11 Here there is neither Yevani nor Yehudi, there is neither those who are or are not of the Bris Milah, there is no uncultured non-Greek speaker, there is no Scythian, eved, or Ben Chorin, but rather Moshiach is all in all.
12 Therefore, as Bechirim (Chosen ones) of Hashem, Kadoshim and ahuvim, enrobe yourselves in tender feelings of rachmei Shomayim (heavenly compassion, mercy), chesed (lovingkindness), anavah (humility), shiflut (lowliness), and savlanut (longsuffering),
13 Being soivel (bearing with) one another and extending selicha (forgiveness) to each other, if it should be that one is murmuring his complaint against another; just as Adoneinu extended selicha to you, so also you should extend selicha.
14 And to all these things add ahavah, which is the agudah of tamimim.
15 And let the shalom of Moshiach arbitrate in your levavot. You were called to this shalom in one NEVELAH [DEVARIM 21:23; cf geviyah, BERESHIS 47:18; cf basar, TEHILLIM 16:9-10; IYOV 19:25-27; YESHAYAH 53:11, guf (body)]. Let there be todah in your levavot.
16 Let the dvar of Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach make its mishkan in you richly, in all chochmah and in all Moshiach’s pnimiyus haTorah (innermost Torah teaching) and words of chizzuk, ministering to one another with Tehillim, shirim, and neshamah niggunim miRuach Hakodesh (soul melodies from the Ruach Hakodesh) with gratitude, singing in your levavot to Hashem. [TEHILLIM 47:7]
17 And whatever thing you do, whether in dvar or in ma’aseh, do all things b’Shem Adoneinu Yehoshua, giving todot to Elohim HaAv through him [Moshiach].
18 Nashim (wives), make yourselves accountable to your ba’alim (husbands), as is proper in Adoneinu.
19 Ba’alim, have ahavah for your nashim and do not be bitter against them.
20 Yeladim, obey your horim (parents) in all things, for this is well pleasing in Adoneinu.
21 Avot, do not provoke your yeladim, lest they be disheartened.
22 Avadim (servants), each of you obey in all things your adon according to the basar, not with eye service as pleasers of Bnei Adam, but with tom lev, with yirat Shomayim.
23 Whatever you do, be po’alim (workers) who with their neshamah work facing Adoneinu and not Bnei Adam,
24 Having da’as that from Adoneinu you will receive the sachar of the nachalah (alloted inheritance, 1:12, TEHILLIM 16:5-6). Serve Adoneinu Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach.
25 For the one doing wrong will be repaid for his wrong, ki ein masso panim im Hashem (for there is no respect of persons with G-d, no partiality).