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Old 04-01-2018, 05:11 PM
 
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And, we can read Jude 7 and see it was also sexual perversion.

Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
It's 2018, jimmie. You have access to the internet and real knowledge.

Why keep your faculties so constrained?
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Old 04-01-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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But this statement enters the narrative:
[Genesis 19:29] So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived. (NIV)
After the LORD being involved throughout, why does it seem as if the leadership over the incident suddenly switches from the LORD Jehovah to God the 'elohiym? Yet it turns out that a critical thinker will admit a substantial degree of confusion, especially as to the appointments and positions demanded by the plural

But the confusion was intended, as the following time-frame reveals:
[Revelation 10:7] But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets." (NIV)
What if it turns out to be a very bad idea to put God ahead of the LORD?

In the nature of the ever widening context of the scriptural narrative, which requires a constant revisiting of the beginning with the ending, and back and forth yet again, all in a hugely profitable recounting of previously read prophecy and history, is a lesson of itself.
The word Elohim which is the word God in Hebrew, is a plural noun, but is not intended to be used as a plural unless the associated words to indicate it. When it is used of God it always includes singular modifiers. It has no plural meaning on its own.

It is like the word "deer" in English. A plural noun but if you say "look at that deer" it means something different than "Look at those deer".
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Old 04-01-2018, 05:55 PM
 
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The word Elohim which is the word God in Hebrew, is a plural noun, but is not intended to be used as a plural unless the associated words to indicate it. When it is used of God it always includes singular modifiers. It has no plural meaning on its own.

It is like the word "deer" in English. A plural noun but if you say "look at that deer" it means something different than "Look at those deer".
When you're reduced to splitting hairs, you've lost sight of the fur.
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Old 04-01-2018, 06:51 PM
 
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When you're reduced to splitting hairs, you've lost sight of the fur.
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:09 PM
 
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And, we can read Jude 7 and see it was also sexual perversion.

Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
so the bible is wrong? It is contradicting itself...THANKS for acknowledging that.

Is all sexual immorality homosexual??
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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so the bible is wrong? It is contradicting itself...THANKS for acknowledging that.

Is all sexual immorality homosexual??
LOL

Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of many sins.
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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Haha. That's always been a troubling phrase for me, when connected to a natural disaster.
I worked with engineering contracts for decades. "Act of God" is a common phrased used in them.
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Old 04-01-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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You can pray and ask for God to reveal why he hammered Sodom and Gomorrah.

Or you can read the Bible. Up to you.
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or we can just read Ezekiel 16:49 to know why god hammered Sodom & Gomorrah----


"'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
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It's a story.

Never happened.
You're a writer, TD. The Sodom and Gomorrah story is a plot point to move a larger story along.

- Lot and his wife and two daughters survive a major disaster.

- His wife has to be gotten rid of for the story to reach its conclusion, so she she is disobedient and turned into a pillar of salt.

- Lot flees to the mountains with his two daughters. They are now without other human contact.

- The daughters start to worry that they will never get to have children, so they scheme to get their father drunk and then they
each have sex with him.

- As a result they each give birth to a son, one of which becomes the father of the Ammonites and the other of the Moabites, both
tribes that are enemies of the Israelites.

- The conclusion is that those tribes are descended from two in-bred bastards, a bad thing in the ancient Middle East.

A ruined city and salt formations nearby could make for some creative storytelling around a fire under a starry sky.

http://www.failingfifty.com/wp-conte.../image-34.jpeg
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:25 PM
 
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You're a writer, TD. The Sodom and Gomorrah story is a plot point to move a larger story along.

- Lot and his wife and two daughters survive a major disaster.

- His wife has to be gotten rid of for the story to reach its conclusion, so she she is disobedient and turned into a pillar of salt.

- Lot flees to the mountains with his two daughters. They are now without other human contact.

- The daughters start to worry that they will never get to have children, so they scheme to get their father drunk and then they
each have sex with him.

- As a result they each give birth to a son, one of which becomes the father of the Ammonites and the other of the Moabites, both
tribes that are enemies of the Israelites.

- The conclusion is that those tribes are descended from two in-bred bastards, a bad thing in the ancient Middle East.

A ruined city and salt formations nearby could make for some creative storytelling around a fire under a starry sky.

http://www.failingfifty.com/wp-conte.../image-34.jpeg
Yep.

A story.

Lot the sot should've been turned into a pillar of pepper alongside his wife.
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Old 04-02-2018, 07:52 AM
 
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LOL

Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of many sins.
so, please define sexual immorality?

Please provide chapters and verses listing the "many sins?"

Are you not also guilty of many sins? When will god deal with you?
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