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He intends to save ALL PEOPLE bringing them to the full knowledge of the truth in due time.
But it looks like only a few in this life will come to understand and comprehend his intention.
No, He does not intend to save all people. And the contrast between those who are resurrected to eternal life and those who are resurrected to disgrace and everlasting contempt and judgment makes that clear. The two groups are mutually exclusive and are not interchangeable. Those who are resurrected to eternal life will always have eternal life while those who are resurrected to disgrace, everlasting contempt, and judgment will always remain in that status. (Daniel 12:2; John 5:28-29)
The only people Satan can blind to the truth are those who are already predisposed to negative volition regarding God and the gospel.
oh good grief. but at least it is good to know you believe not all have to have faith and believe, myself I believe everyone needs both and everyone shall have both.
06-08-2018, 11:48 PM
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You are actually adding to the scripture to get it to say what you want it to. show me in context where it says God is the saviour of all mankind by grace through faith. You are big on context and syntax when you think it is in your favour. show us all where it says anything about through grace in that context.
No, I have demonstrated through many passages and their context these facts.
For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God; it is not from works, so that no one can boast.
06-08-2018, 11:49 PM
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No, that would be Jerwade. But Rose has returned after a brief talk with the Lord who declares>>>>>>>
Still can't see clearly huh! More like talking with your own ego.
06-08-2018, 11:51 PM
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Yet it is still talking about all humanity and Gods plan and Jesus purpose is to fulfill that plan. Oh and you have a misunderstanding in the verse you quoted if you think Adam was created in Gods image and likeness because the first man adam is of the earth earthy, which is NOT the image and likeness of the Father,
There is nothing in Gen.5 about God's plan or Jesus.
06-08-2018, 11:52 PM
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there is your arrogance again thinking you are on equal footing with paul and john
Nah, I just happen to know what they teach you obviously don't!
06-08-2018, 11:53 PM
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lol yet here you are trying to prove God will not save all men
No, I simply proved that Paul and John teach that God is not going to save everyone. Big Difference!
06-09-2018, 12:04 AM
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No it means God is faithful to save all men, specially of those that believe.
Nope:
What then? If some did not believe, does their unbelief nullify the faithfulness of God? Absolutely not! Let God be proven true, and every human being shown up as a liar,...
Does not say anything about saving all men. You should read Romans particularly Chapter 3.People's unbelief does NOT nullify God's faithfulness in Christ's work on the cross. Complete opposite of what you said! You think if everyone does not believe then God does fail.
He intends to save ALL PEOPLE bringing them to the full knowledge of the truth in due time.
But it looks like only a few in this life will come to understand and comprehend his intention.
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No, He does not intend to save all people. And the contrast between those who are resurrected to eternal life and those who are resurrected to disgrace and everlasting contempt and judgment makes that clear. The two groups are mutually exclusive and are not interchangeable. Those who are resurrected to eternal life will always have eternal life while those who are resurrected to disgrace, everlasting contempt, and judgment will always remain in that status. (Daniel 12:2; John 5:28-29)
Nowhere does is say that human life is eternal, neither does it say anything about anyone being eternally damned.
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