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His mother followed him out of Mormonism and has a ministry now
There are other important ways in which Mormon teaching does not match biblical teaching on Christ’s atonement, but most significantly the Mormon Jesus teaches that membership in the LDS Church is required for eternal life. According to the Bible, his Church is a body of believers. No organisation can save.
You already agreed that what she said in the bolded is true. She went on to expound that no organization can save, with which you also agree.
Everything I quote from her is first fact checked with LDS sites. How is this belief not vastly different from other Christians? No other denomination of Christian believes that we need a Mormon Priesthood Holder to Baptize us, do they? That would be strange indeed. Anyone who believed that would.........convert to LDS!
Non-Mormon Christians believe we are granted eternal life through belief in Jesus Christ period.
Everything I quote from her is first fact checked with LDS sites.
Well, your research sucked then. That's all I have to say.
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How is this belief not vastly different from other Christians? No other denomination of Christian believes that we need a Mormon Priesthood Holder to Baptize us, do they? That would be strange indeed. Anyone who believed that would.........convert to LDS!
No they don't, but Catholics believe that God-given authority is essential and held only by the Catholic Church. I disagree with them concerning which church holds that authority, but I admire the fact that they at least recognize its importance. If you believe it's completely unnecessary, so be it. I can accept that without telling you that you believe something different from what "Christians" believe.
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Non-Mormon Christians believe we are granted eternal life through belief in Jesus Christ period.
No, some non-Mormon Christians believe that. Some believe God expects us to walk the walk if we're going to talk the talk. And you still haven't told me what you mean by "eternal life." Are you talking about life after death or what? And I'm curious... Do you believe that eternal life is granted to all who believe in Jesus Christ? Or is it just for those who believe that God does not expect us to be obedient and faithful and will reward us for those things?
Well, your research sucked then. That's all I have to say.
No they don't, but Catholics believe that God-given authority is essential and held only by the Catholic Church. I disagree with them concerning which church holds that authority, but I admire the fact that they at least recognize its importance. If you believe it's completely unnecessary, so be it. I can accept that without telling you that you believe something different from what "Christians" believe.
No, some non-Mormon Christians believe that. Some believe God expects us to walk the walk if we're going to talk the talk. And you still haven't told me what you mean by "eternal life." Are you talking about life after death or what? And I'm curious... Do you believe that eternal life is granted to all who believe in Jesus Christ? Or is it just for those who believe that God does not expect us to be obedient and faithful and will reward us for those things?
You're correct. The LDS church holds a lot in common with the Catholic Church in regards to your view of Scripture, Theological authority, Soteriology, and other areas.
Well, your research sucked then. That's all I have to say.
No it doesn't. I quoted from and linked to an LDS learning site, and you 100% agreed with what I posted.
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No they don't, but Catholics believe that God-given authority is essential and held only by the Catholic Church. I disagree with them concerning which church holds that authority,
I know you do. Only LDS holds the keys. I disagree with both.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Where does the Bible mention Priesthood holders or LDS church? It wasn't even invented yet. LDS can claim the authority, no one can stop them, but how is it Biblical?
I have not done that. I know the rules. Are you contending that everytime I merely say 'Christianity teaches [whatever]' I am saying Mormons are not Christians? Because that is not accurate.
The mother's ministry page also does not say that. It says that Mormon beliefs are very different from other Christians, and that is all I am saying as well.
The mother implies a great deal, and is attempting to use Catholic or Protestant beliefs to support her contentions, so which one do you follow? Or, do you even see a difference between them. What are you calling Christianity, the Scriptures, the Churches or the fact that someone professes Christ Jesus as "Lord and Savior?" Because I surly do not follow the creeds of men.
Why anyone would want to follow the Penal Substitution theory with the clause of Eternal damnation is beyond me.
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Because we care about truth.
No, you don't. Especially, if you believe in Eternal torment, punishment or damnation.
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