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I never gave that much thought, but you are right.
I know there are Celestial rungs, realms, diff levels. Just sayin...
The rungs and realms are excruciating for a lot of Mormons, and they are given double talk by their church about it.
One has to be married and have children to get to higher levels, this is painful beyond belief for those who can't find a partner/can't have children.
They are told Heavenly Father will work it out, but they don't say how, and saying that is in direct contradiction to what they are taught. That a temple sealed marriage is ESSENTIAL.
That is only one example. One of many.
Straight up, I am not worthy to be a Mormon and I thank God I do not have to be. The pressure cooker is too much.
I wish I were Catholic. Hey dude, I did this and that bad thing. Do this penance. God forgives you. Whew!
Plus they can drink and smoke and dance and all kinds of things. I was raised Baptist, which can also be hard, depending on the type, and mine was strict.
I don't think mine was Evangelical. I was baptized as a baby, but I didn't have to later be 'born again'.
I believe that grace allows and enables us to overcome sin. I see mercy as God's willingness to forgive us when we don't fully succeed, despite our best efforts.
You are telling me that I'm either lying or stupid, that I'm either being intentionally deceptive in explaining my beliefs or that you understand LDS doctrine better than I do. Which is it?
None of the above. When did I say anything of the sort?
Yeah, well, I'd say the man in the video just liked the idea of cheap grace. Mormons believe that God's Plan of Salvation is designed not just to bring God's children back to Him, but to bring them back changed. No Mormon who truly understands his religion feels "overwhelming pressure" to do anything other than to do what Jesus Christ told us to do when He walked here on earth among men. I don't know about you, but I'd be downright ashamed to say that I thought He was asking too much of me.
Cheap Grace? What? Jesus came to fulfill the law and died on the cross. That is not cheap. What a bizarre statement. Sounds very judgmental to me. Are you condemning him for 'seeking cheap grace'? And me? I believe in what you call 'cheap Grace'. It's right there in the Bible, which I quoted for you.
The rungs and realms are excruciating for a lot of Mormons, and they are given double talk by their church about it.
One has to be married and have children to get to higher levels, this is painful beyond belief for those who can't find a partner/can't have children.
They are told Heavenly Father will work it out, but they don't say how, and saying that is in direct contradiction to what they are taught. That a temple sealed marriage is ESSENTIAL.
That is only one example. One of many.
Talk about double-talk. First you say that Mormons are told that that they have to married (i.e. sealed in the temple) and have children in order to attain the highest level of salvation. Then you say that Mormons are told that Heavenly Father will work it out if they don't do this. So which is it?
Most Christians I've encountered say that a person must accept Jesus Christ in order to be saved. But when asked what will happen to the billions of people who have lived and died without ever having heard of Jesus Christ, they say that God will work it out. So, I ask you now, tell me how, precisely, He's going to do that?
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Straight up, I am not worthy to be a Mormon and I thank God I do not have to be. The pressure cooker is too much.
Straight up... You'd have to start out by developing a little humility. That pressure cooker would probably eliminate you right off the bat.
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I wish I were Catholic. Hey dude, I did this and that bad thing. Do this penance. God forgives you. Whew!
Most Christians I've encountered say that a person must accept Jesus Christ in order to be saved. But when asked what will happen to the billions of people who have lived and died without ever having heard of Jesus Christ, they say that God will work it out. So, I ask you now, tell me how, precisely, He's going to do that?
I've never heard that in my life. Do you have a source for this contention?
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