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Alexander the Great's virgin birth was presented as fact, as well as those of his Ptolemaic successors and Caesar Augustus. Historians of the time wrote about Augustus in this vein. In fact, the term Savior of the World was given to Caesar Augustus along with the account of his virgin birth. The same is true of Buddha. And, in early Christian traditions, Melchizadek.
All of these proclamations of virgin birth, by the way, happened long before Christ was born--and certainly before Christianity began to organize after Christ's crucifixion and resurrection. To me, the most likely scenario is that the chroniclers of Christ's life and ministry on earth simply took the common vernacular of the time and applied it to Jesus, which then became fetishized over the years. To me, the question of virgin birth is trivial and doesn't really affect my Christian beliefs one whit.
So if it can be proven that Jesus was not the product of some supposed virgin birth, and did not pre-exist as some alien life form, who pre-existed the creation of the Boundless cosmos, and who came down to earth some two thousand years ago and entered the womb of some supposed ever virgin, where he created for himself a human like body that was not of the seed of Adam, from which every human who has ever walked this earth is descended, and therefore not under the penalty of Adams sin. A body in which he could walk the earth disguised as a human being, but was in fact, a man born of two human parents, this would not affect your Christian belief one whit?
The fact that Jesus lived sin free life is what is more important that if he was a born of a virgin of if Joseph was his biological father or not. Its not a sin to be born, so if he had a normal birth like the rest of us, the important part was he didnt sin, and that is how he fulfilled the law.
Who if not Jews translated the rest, what does it matter if they were elders or not? Whoever translated it, understood the word as to mean virgin about 100 BCE.
BTW I'm not even sure if the Greek word "parthenos" means virgin in a strong medical sense, none the less the virgin birth is clear within the context, whether the word in question means virgin or merely girl.
Will someone please explain why this is so important to people?
It's like the argument about whether Jesus ever married.
It doesn't change Jesus' teachings at all.
Does his mother being a virgin make him any more or less holy?
I seriously don't get it.
I think the point was simply supposed to be that this was something only God could do.
But I am with you. I personally don't buy the Virgin Birth, but that doesn't change my thoughts about what Christ taught.
Virgin births were fairly common back then. Caesar Augustus, Zoraster, Socrates, Buddha, Alexander the Great, and a half-dozen Egyptian pharaohs were ascribed virgin births before Christ was ever born, not to mention a lot of gods.
Alexander the Great's virgin birth was presented as fact, as well as those of his Ptolemaic successors and Caesar Augustus. Historians of the time wrote about Augustus in this vein. In fact, the term Savior of the World was given to Caesar Augustus along with the account of his virgin birth. The same is true of Buddha. And, in early Christian traditions, Melchizadek.
All of these proclamations of virgin birth, by the way, happened long before Christ was born--and certainly before Christianity began to organize after Christ's crucifixion and resurrection. To me, the most likely scenario is that the chroniclers of Christ's life and ministry on earth simply took the common vernacular of the time and applied it to Jesus, which then became fetishized over the years. To me, the question of virgin birth is trivial and doesn't really affect my Christian beliefs one whit.
Ive heard some TV preachers on TBN even so as far as saying you are not saved if you dont believe in the virgin birth and it is extremely important that you do SMH.
The Jewish Bible proves the virgin birth of Jesus. Ancient Jewish rabbis understood that the Hebrew word almah means a virgin, a young woman, who has not been in a sexual relationship with a man.
The details of the woman & her virgin birth are given by God before Adam & Eve are put out of the Garden of Eden .
" And I will put enmity between thee and the WOMAN , and between thy seed and HER SEED …"
( Genesis 3:15 )
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