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I said you were right... just respond to the verses.
You presented them, you respond to them. But since you said you can't, my response is that they obviously cannot be taken to support whatever you think it is they support.
That's their problem... maybe because they are fighting against what it is clearly saying because they don't like the outcome.
The verses I am presenting are clear.
I said you were right... just respond to the verses.
That would be putting your opinion to it if you did not understand the verses around it. You are basically editing the scriptures to make it say what you think it does.
That would be putting your opinion to it if you did not understand the verses around it. You are basically editing the scriptures to make it say what you think it does.
Whatever...
I will check back later and see if anyone chooses to respond to the content of those verse describing what will happen.
Nothing that you had underlined relates to eternal damnation for a finite life. Please, explain to me why the "Lake" in the so called Lake of fire is a haven or a place of safety? Or, is it just your obstinate refusal to see that the purpose (metaphorically) is for cleansing and purification of the person themselves? Why torment a timid (meek) or fearful person in the same way you might a murderer or those who are immoral - could it be for correction? Remember, all those he receives are disciplined or corrected as any loving father would do for the one he loves. Can you imagine the "weeping" that would take place, if the person you had previously murdered was standing in your presence - how much remorse and pain you would feel knowing your had taken their life, when faced with the truth of your own thoughts, deeds and actions? How much pain and suffering have you endured in this life because of injuring or harming that of another? I have no doubt that people have regretted what they have done to one extent or another, and wished they could take it all back, even the small things that may have hurt someone, unintended.
The Lake of Fire is described as it is stated.
The why questions are not mine to answer.
None of your reply detracts from what is written that will take place... but it does question God's motives, which I am not dealing with because I will trust in whatever He does.
That's their problem... maybe because they are fighting against what it is clearly saying because they don't like the outcome.
The verses I am presenting are clear.
No, they are not. You THINK they are clear based on how you want to interpret them but then you refuse to explain how you interpret them.
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I said you were right... just respond to the verses.
If they are clear, how do you explain your inability to explain them to us?
If anyone said to me that their fear has gone of being sent to hell because they now believe in Jesus, i would 500% not believe them.Believing God is going to send his creation to an eternal hell then into a lake of fire simply for not believing in him or sinning(basically missing the mark),no matter how much blood was shed, even if it was still flowing today could ever remove that picture from your mind and because of that there would be fear present.
Is it any wonder Paul said these words
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
Nothing that you had underlined relates to eternal damnation for a finite life. Please, explain to me why the "Lake" in the so called Lake of fire is a haven or a place of safety? Or, is it just your obstinate refusal to see that the purpose (metaphorically) is for cleansing and purification of the person themselves? Why torment a timid (meek) or fearful person in the same way you might a murderer or those who are immoral - could it be for correction? Remember, all those he receives are disciplined or corrected as any loving father would do for the one he loves. Can you imagine the "weeping" that would take place, if the person you had previously murdered was standing in your presence - how much remorse and pain you would feel knowing your had taken their life, when faced with the truth of your own thoughts, deeds and actions? How much pain and suffering have you endured in this life because of injuring or harming that of another? I have no doubt that people have regretted what they have done to one extent or another, and wished they could take it all back, even the small things that may have hurt someone, unintended.
Well done, Jer. Not only can DRob not respond to the content of the Revelation passages he posted, he apparently is unable to respond to the content of your post.
If anyone said to me that their fear has gone of being sent to hell because they now believe in Jesus, i would 500% not believe them.Believing God is going to send his creation to an eternal hell then into a lake of fire simply for not believing in him or sinning(basically missing the mark),no matter how much blood was shed, even if it was still flowing today could ever remove that picture from your mind and because of that there would be fear present.
Is it any wonder Paul said these words
Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
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Well done, Jer. Not only can DRob not respond to the content of the Revelation passages he posted, he apparently is unable to respond to the content of your post.
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But since you said you can't, my response is that they obviously cannot be taken to support whatever you think it is they support.
