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As concerning the pros and cons of Universalism, I think that Matthew 7:13-14 settles it for me.
yup it does, the whole things is about entering into the kingdom of heaven, only a few get there via the straight gate, the rest get there via destruction.
yup it does, the whole things is about entering into the kingdom of heaven, only a few get there via the straight gate, the rest get there via destruction.
yup it does, the whole things is about entering into the kingdom of heaven, only a few get there via the straight gate, the rest get there via destruction.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
You know, this will go right over his head!
Amen, brothers! His blind mind from reading the OT and Moses refuses to lift the veil using the Holy Spirit as revealed by Jesus Christ so he simply can't see the truth of pneuma's post!!!
yup it does, the whole things is about entering into the kingdom of heaven, only a few get there via the straight gate, the rest get there via destruction.
"The Son of God entered the scene to abolish the devil's ways." ~MSG
"The devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."
To destroy =
Verb lyō
To loose one bound.
To unbind, release from bonds, set free.
To loose any person or thing tied or fastened.
One bound up/ swathed in bandages.
Prisoner bound with chains. Discharge from prison & let go.
To loosen, undo, dissolve, anything bound.
To annul, subvert.
To do away with by depriving of authority.
To break up, demolish & destroy.
To overthrow, to do away with.
Welcome to the katanaliskō holy devouring Fire of our God.
Amen, brothers! His blind mind from reading the OT and Moses refuses to lift the veil using the Holy Spirit as revealed by Jesus Christ so he simply can't see the truth of pneuma's post!!!
It does seem like he uses the OT to explain the NT, yet it is the other way around.
amen rose all the works of the devil will be devoured in the fire of God. Yet so many believe the works of the devil are eternal, go figure
The only eternal in all Scripture is the Aidios One. That glorious Being declares that the curse has a limited shelf life! It does not continue ad nauseum!
ou eti katathema
"In the Christian story God descends to re-ascend. He comes down; down from the heights of absolute being into time and space, down into humanity; down further still, down to the very roots and seabed of the nature He has created. But He goes down to come up again and bring the whole ruined world up with Him." ~C.S. Lewis
"How could the Bible possibly speak of the perfect victory of God our Creator who loves righteousness and cannot bear evil, if that victory really means that He cannot bring His own creatures at last to hate evil as He hates it, but must confirm multitudes, indeed the majority of them, in their choice of evil for ever and ever? What sort of victory is it to be able only to subdue evil and prevent it harming any but those who choose it, and to be unable to bring human souls to abominate it and desire to forsake it, so that the evil itself ceases to exist?" ~Hannah Hurnard
amen rose all the works of the devil will be devoured in the fire of God. Yet so many believe the works of the devil are eternal, go figure
"The current Evangelical theology involves in its system belief in the deathlessness of sin, the indestructibility of error, and permanence of evil. That though there was a time in the history of the universe when sin in any shape or form did not exist, when no cry of pain or sense of guilt darkened the all-extensive bliss and holiness of creation, yet since sin has once effected an entrance into such a scene, it has come in never to go out again, indestructible, unconquerable, ineradicable, endless. Absolute happiness and sinlessness have forever vanished like the phantom of a dream. The eternal state is a universe endlessly finding room for myriads of souls rolling and writhing in the burning agonies of ceaseless flame, eternally sinful, vile and morally hideous. It pictures the final perfection yet to be attained as having room for a vast cesspool of immoral and degraded beings, continually existing in opposition to God." ~Vladimir Gelesnoff
ou eti katathema
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