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Universalism is a unfaithful evil teaching because it denies and disregards the truth of that God gives up some to a reprobate mind, indication of His rejection of them, and consequently their exclusion from Gods eternal kingdom Rom 1:28-32
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
1 Cor 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
To say the least, the universalist is deceived and seeks to deceive others, preaching a false sense of security for all mankind.
People are not thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers, extortioners forever. To suggest He destroys the soul forever is not something someone does when they are loving. Common sense tells you that. He forgives His enemies....just like putting a burning coal upon their heads. It is a frightful thing to stand before the Living God for many. We are warned not to stand before the Throne naked, we all know what that means.
Universalism is a unfaithful evil teaching because it denies and disregards the truth of that Jesus came to not onlly to open the eyes of the blind Isa 42:7
To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
But also to make others blind to the truth John 9:39
39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
This coincides with the purpose of God in Election, only some, the Election of Grace will be saved, and the rest of men shall be blinded Rom 11:7
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
Universalism is a unfaithful evil teaching because it denies and disregards the truth of that Jesus came to not onlly to open the eyes of the blind Isa 42:7
To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
But also to make others blind to the truth John 9:39
39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
This coincides with the purpose of God in Election, only some, the Election of Grace will be saved, and the rest of men shall be blinded Rom 11:7
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
Apparently, you are blind, and cannot see the truth with your nonsense that has blinded you.
People are not thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers, extortioners forever. To suggest He destroys the soul forever is not something someone does when they are loving. Common sense tells you that. He forgives His enemies....just like putting a burning coal upon their heads. It is a frightful thing to stand before the Living God for many. We are warned not to stand before the Throne naked, we all know what that means.
It means you have to find an extra vessel to then purchase the oil, it means you have to first find the oyster to purchase the field in which you have found it.
It means you have to purchase the gold refined in the fire, that you have to purchase the balm.
Since most Christians are opposed to doing these things, they will remain naked and not able to enter into the higher Zoe Kingdom that Jesus was discussing, and he tells us where one ends up if they are naked, they are sent to outer darkness but there is still salvation there.
If you explain to a Christian and show him where and how to purchase gold and oil, they simply would not believe you, they simply wouldn't believe what Jesus is telling them to do.
Jesus is telling and showing them to offer the offerings of a priest in order to become a priest but they refuse to give such offerings.
If a Gentile takes it upon himself to offer the offerings that God has demanded from Gentiles, God says that he would take those Gentiles AS PRIESTS.
Does everyone know what transpires when God truly appoints a priest?
It has nothing to do with a Gentile claiming to be a priest, if God appoints you to become a priest because of your actions, he literally pours oil on your head and you become a son of oil.
Unless a Gentile offers the required offerings to become a priest, he can never ever, never ever become a real priest.
They can all claim to be priests all day long, but unless God pours oil on your head, you will not recieve the oil, and you will not become a priest, AND ONLY PRIESTS walk into the higher Zoe kingdom. Unless you become a son of oil by offering what God asks, you will never be born again.
"What we do see is Jesus, made “not quite as high as angels,” and then, through the experience of death, crowned so much higher than any angel, with a glory “bright with Eden’s dawn light.” In that death, by God’s grace, he fully experienced death in every person’s place.
It makes good sense that the God who got everything started and keeps everything going now completes the work by making the Salvation Pioneer perfect through suffering as he leads all these people to glory. Since the One who saves and those who are saved have a common origin, Jesus doesn’t hesitate to treat them as family.
Since the children are made of flesh and blood, it’s logical that the Savior took on flesh and blood in order to rescue them by his death. By embracing death, taking it into himself, he destroyed the Devil’s hold on death and freed all who cower through life, scared to death of death.
It’s obvious, of course, that he didn’t go to all this trouble for angels. It was for people like us, children of Abraham. That’s why he had to enter into every detail of human life. Then, when he came before God as high priest to get rid of the people’s sins, he would have already experienced it all himself—all the pain, all the testing—and would be able to help where help was needed." ~MSG
It means you have to find an extra vessel to then purchase the oil, it means you have to first find the oyster to purchase the field in which you have found it.
It means you have to purchase the gold refined in the fire, that you have to purchase the balm.
Since most Christians are opposed to doing these things, they will remain naked and not able to enter into the higher Zoe Kingdom that Jesus was discussing, and he tells us where one ends up if they are naked, they are sent to outer darkness but there is still salvation there.
If you explain to a Christian and show him where and how to purchase gold and oil, they simply would not believe you, they simply wouldn't believe what Jesus is telling them to do.
Jesus is telling and showing them to offer the offerings of a priest in order to become a priest but they refuse to give such offerings.
If a Gentile takes it upon himself to offer the offerings that God has demanded from Gentiles, God says that he would take those Gentiles AS PRIESTS.
Does everyone know what transpires when God truly appoints a priest?
It has nothing to do with a Gentile claiming to be a priest, if God appoints you to become a priest because of your actions, he literally pours oil on your head and you become a son of oil.
Unless a Gentile offers the required offerings to become a priest, he can never ever, never ever become a real priest.
They can all claim to be priests all day long, but unless God pours oil on your head, you will not recieve the oil, and you will not become a priest, AND ONLY PRIESTS walk into the higher Zoe kingdom. Unless you become a son of oil by offering what God asks, you will never be born again.
What is the New Covenant then? When people asked Christ what it was they needed to do to be saved, why didn't He answer, you must follow all of the Mosaic laws? He answered we must love God and others. Hmmm..why would He do that? Your a Reverse Moses Hannibal----"People, we're going the wrong way, we MUST go back to Egypt!" I pray the deception is lifted from you soon.
What is the New Covenant then? When people asked Christ what it was they needed to do to be saved, why didn't He answer, you must follow all of the Mosaic laws? He answered we must love God and others. Hmmm..why would He do that? Your a Reverse Moses Hannibal----"People, we're going the wrong way, we MUST go back to Egypt!" I pray the deception is lifted from you soon.
Nobody has to follow all the law, nobody has insinuated that Gentiles have to keep all the laws.
A Gentile has to accept the same worship system as Israel or the Gentile cannot be grafted and adopted into the chosen nation and being adopted into Israel to become one people with Jews is the whole point.
Christians no longet get adopted, they no longer accept the worship system of Messiah, and again, it has norhing to do with the actual keeping of laws.or feasts.
It is the acceptance of the religion Jesus walked in that God says is the ONLY WAY to obtain an inhetitance.
Hebrews 8
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The house of Judah and the house.of Israel are REAL LIVE PEOPLE, Christians have in no way replaced the Jew and they have not become Israel in order to join the Jew.
In no stretch of the imagination are modern Christians in the New Covenant only made for Ephraim and Judah.
The first Christians became one with Jews and they obtained the inheritance, certainly not todays Christians.
Christians are not Jews, they arent with Jews, they arent in the same religion as Messiah and they have not become Israel.
They are not in the new covenant and for a Christian to vlaim he is in the new covenant is just nonsense.
You are either peacticing the religion of Messiah or you aint.
If you are practicing the same religion Jesus practiced, you ate 8n the same religion as Jews, God's ONLY ORDAINED, APPOINTED WORSHIP SYSTEM.
Those first Christians had a Passover lamb, today's Christoans reject that sacrifice openly.
What is the New Covenant then? When people asked Christ what it was they needed to do to be saved, why didn't He answer, you must follow all of the Mosaic laws? He answered we must love God and others. Hmmm..why would He do that? Your a Reverse Moses Hannibal----"People, we're going the wrong way, we MUST go back to Egypt!" I pray the deception is lifted from you soon.
There’s the Ten and the each of the Torah laws is a subset of one of the Ten...
The view of eternal torment is a ghastly presentation of the character of the One who is love incarnate. Most men do not realize its true bearing, or the light in which it really presents the character of God.
Consider how this dogma of endless evil must strike an inquirer after God, one outside the pale of Christianity, but sincerely desirous of learning the truth. There are such individuals.
You tell this inquirer that God is not Almighty only, but all good; that God is indeed love; that God is his Father. But these terms are words without any justification at all, if they have not their common ordinary sense when applied to our God.
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