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Reject whatever you want. But to say that eternal torment is false *because* it's allegedly pagan in origin or to simply reject anything on the basis of its pagan origins is disingenuous. It's alleged pagan origins have nothing to do with whether it's true or not.
Eternal torment is false for so many reasons not the least of which is that it takes an extremely evil or damaged soul to resonate with it as something acceptable and reasonable, IMO. Eternal torment can be no part of anything God would ever create and employ for ANY REASON based on its extreme pointlessness and enormous evil. Any soul that resonates with it is unlikely to have become anyone God would want, IMO.
Reject whatever you want. But to say that eternal torment is false *because* it's allegedly pagan in origin or to simply reject anything on the basis of its pagan origins is disingenuous. It's alleged pagan origins have nothing to do with whether it's true or not.
Disingenuous? I never said eternal torment was false, those are your words. But you're right, eternal torment IS false. I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to convince people who have found peace and love within a belief that you're right, they're wrong. You're disturbing the Universalists peace. Don't think that your vengeful god would take to kindly to that.
I don't reject things that are plausible, rational, logical or scientific. It's worth looking into if those things apply. Like I said, you are rejecting rational thought and behavior. Selling empty bottles of snake oil.
Oh and don't forget to pray for those dead people.
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non·sense
/ˈnänˌsens,ˈnänsəns/
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noun
1.
spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense.
"he was talking absolute nonsense"
2.
foolish or unacceptable behavior.
"put a stop to that nonsense, will you?"
Disingenuous? I never said eternal torment was false, those are your words. But you're right, eternal torment IS false. I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to convince people who have found peace and love within a belief that you're right, they're wrong. You're disturbing the peace.
I don't reject things that are plausible, rational, logical or scientific. It's worth looking into if those things apply. Like I said, you are rejecting rational thought and behavior. Selling empty bottles of snake oil.
This thread is both sides of the issue. No one is disturbing anything.
non·sense
/ˈnänˌsens,ˈnänsəns/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense.
"he was talking absolute nonsense"
2.
foolish or unacceptable behavior.
"put a stop to that nonsense, will you?"
I’m familiar with the definition. I want to know how you decide what is nonsensical.
This thread is both sides of the issue. No one is disturbing anything.
You are. This thread is concerning anyone who wants to Ask an Atheist a question, talk about themselves or why they believe or don't believe. Not for petty arguments of something that has been beaten to death in other threads, which is where their arguments belong.
Now if you'll excuse me, I don't have time for your NONSENSE anymore. Your one line comments are less than thrilling and not worth commenting on any longer.
You're the one-liner non-comedy (nowhere near it) nonsense agitator that I was speaking of.
You are. This thread is concerning anyone who wants to Ask an Atheist a question, talk about themselves or why they believe or don't believe. Not for petty arguments of something that has been beaten to death in other threads, which is where their arguments belong.
Now if you'll excuse me, I don't have time for your NONSENSE anymore. Your one line comments are less than thrilling and not worth commenting on any longer.
You're the one-liner non-comedy (nowhere near it) nonsense agitator that I was speaking of.
Indeed they are. Nothing is outside God's jurisdiction.
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So you dont believe prayer is beneficial for all? do you only pray in this life for those who believe? if not why do you stop?
Prayer cannot benefit someone who is already in heaven or hell. We can't know where someone is after they die with very few exceptions, so we pray for them. If they are in purgatory, our prayers can assist them.
If someone is still living, we should of course pray for them because there is always hope for their salvation as long as they have breath.
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I never said eternal torment was false, those are your words. But you're right, eternal torment IS false. I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to convince people who have found peace and love within a belief that you're right, they're wrong. You're disturbing the Universalists peace. Don't think that your vengeful god would take to kindly to that.
