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The apostles taught that each of the persons of the Godhead has a will, they are all God, they have all the characteristics that would describe them as being a separate person.
But they also were strict monotheists. They taught that there is ONLY one God. Not multiple Gods.
So the solution is that yes--they are all God, but they are all of the same essence. They are not all part of the essence of God, but they all fully contain all of the essence of God. They are all fully God.
Maybe they did lack the way to describe it, I don't know. But I do know that Jesus claimed to be God, the apostles taught he IS God, etc.
Yes. Like I said before. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are perfect. If all three are absolute and aligned they will always be in unison and in harmony; one God in 3 Persons.
Since God is perfect, it pretty much destroys many of the ideas on this forum. I guess that is why it is not brought up. I am still surprised (and saddened) to read just how many still follow man’s thought on God rather than God Himself.
Yes. Like I said before. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are perfect. If all three are absolute and aligned they will always be in unison and in harmony; one God in 3 Persons.
Since God is perfect, it pretty much destroys many of the ideas on this forum. I guess that is why it is not brought up. I am still surprised (and saddened) to read just how many still follow man’s thought on God rather than God Himself.
He [the Christ] is not the Father, but in him dwells the fullness of the father himself.
In other words, it is not God the Son, rather the Son of God who was sent by the father.
There is no such thing as One god in three persons or a Trinitarian god with three heads.
I believe that is a Pagan concept which was adopted by the Roman Catholic Church that you follow.
Yes. Like I said before. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are perfect. If all three are absolute and aligned they will always be in unison and in harmony; one God in 3 Persons.
Since God is perfect, it pretty much destroys many of the ideas on this forum. I guess that is why it is not brought up. I am still surprised (and saddened) to read just how many still follow man’s thought on God rather than God Himself.
He [the Christ] is not the Father, but in him dwells the fullness of the father himself.
In other words, it is not God the Son, rather the Son of God who was sent by the father.
There is no such thing as One god in three persons or a Trinitarian god with three heads.
I believe that is a Pagan concept which was adopted by the Roman Catholic Church that you follow.
He [the Christ] is not the Father, but in him dwells the fullness of the father himself.
In other words, it is not God the Son, rather the Son of God who was sent by the father.
There is no such thing as One god in three persons or a Trinitarian god with three heads.
I believe that is a Pagan concept which was adopted by the Roman Catholic Church that you follow.
That's okay, but I'd appreciate it if you'd define the terms, "mind, body, and spirit" for me so that we can get on the same state to start with. And is each of these "fully you" or just part of what constitutes "you"?
Just a quick response - sorry to confuse by throwing in my own personal remarks about 'mind, body, spirit' - this should not to be confused or mixed in in any way with the Churches exegesis/doctrine on the Trinity.
In raising/educating our own kiddos (homeschooling), we recognized these three aspects of each one of our own little ones, and endeavor carefully to nourish, grow, & challenge each, as is our responsibility as parents. Here 26 years later, we are seeing the fruits of this diligence - they are amazing and each unique individuals as adults.
No-this is NOT a universal 'comparison' to the Trinity, nor a justification nor a support in any way, and not trying to make it such. More-so a personal testimony of the human side fully realized!
As I said I agree with you. And it is logical to say that Father, Son, and Spirit are all powerful, all knowing and perfect, they act and think the same. The 3 distinct Persons of the Godhead will always be in agreement and in unison because they are in the same essence.
As I said I agree with you. And it is logical to say that Father, Son, and Spirit are all powerful, all knowing and perfect, they act and think the same. The 3 distinct Persons of the Godhead will always be in agreement and in unison because they are in the same essence.
So, getting back to the topic of my OP, to a first-century Jewish convert to Christianity, the idea of "three persons in one essence" would have made zero sense. They simply didn't think in Greek philosophic terms. So were they at a disadvantage?
So, getting back to the topic of my OP, to a first-century Jewish convert to Christianity, the idea of "three persons in one essence" would have made zero sense. They simply didn't think in Greek philosophic terms. So were they at a disadvantage?
I don’t know whether your information is true. But we can read Scripture. The Pharisees claimed that Jesus called Himself Son of God. So, they had an understanding it appears. Paul refers to the Spirit and Jesus as God in several passages.
We say things like essence, Trinity, Godhead. But I think all these descriptions are incomplete. We are trying to define something that we cannot comprehend.
He [the Christ] is not the Father, but in him dwells the fullness of the father himself.
In other words, it is not God the Son, rather the Son of God who was sent by the father.
There is no such thing as One god in three persons or a Trinitarian god with three heads.
I believe that is a Pagan concept which was adopted by the Roman Catholic Church that you follow.
God act through emanations that cover issues in lower dimensions and can be understood by dwellers if those densities. E.g. Creator God, or Demiurge, emanation that deals with lower states of human consciousness on physical level. Per 1 Cor 2, natural, soul types worship Creator God because they are not capable to penetrate spiritual understanding.
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