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Old 07-28-2021, 09:15 PM
 
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Where do you see God with you?
Don't ask potentially embarrassing questions.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:45 AM
 
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Not me specifically or only
I do see the church is a major part of the creation of God
That is my focus on this thread
I like your post/topic. Just trying to dig deeper.
In my NDE experience, I had revelation of God personally communicating with us through nearly every person we encounter, we (I) just never realize(ed) it.

Certainly in the scriptures - just have to see past mans language into what God is saying.
John has my interest right now - notice how sections begin '...the next day' , '...the next day', and '...on the third day...' , and '...since the Passover was near' '... and after this', and '...After the two days'...
Kinda like a divine heart-beat....

Also from your post, 'Alpha & Omega' ;; in many places (scripture) I see Him also showing us the 'ending from the beginning' -
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:16 PM
 
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I see Christ Jesus as being crucified between two thieves: The mistakes of yesterday and fears of tomorrow.

Often times, there is too much focus on the beginning and end with an avoidance of the here and now.
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Old 07-29-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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I like your post/topic. Just trying to dig deeper.
In my NDE experience, I had revelation of God personally communicating with us through nearly every person we encounter, we (I) just never realize(ed) it.

Certainly in the scriptures - just have to see past mans language into what God is saying.
John has my interest right now - notice how sections begin '...the next day' , '...the next day', and '...on the third day...' , and '...since the Passover was near' '... and after this', and '...After the two days'...
Kinda like a divine heart-beat....

Also from your post, 'Alpha & Omega' ;; in many places (scripture) I see Him also showing us the 'ending from the beginning' -
You are actually the first person I have come across who seems to be “seeing” what I “see” at this “level”

I see those timing phrases all through Scripture as well (and have done for a long time) and yes I believe John is that centre (heartbeat) his gospel starts from the beginning (Genesis)



At that time.... in those days..... until this day

But with me its not just the timing that “jumps” out, it will also be types and colours and names and regions, etc and also what I see it is not limited to the Holy Scriptures but is “seeded” in all the early religious, theological, philosophical writings

My reading has taken me to a diverse range of material, early church writings and the Ancient Greek, Roman writers and I find the same signals, signs, words, concepts scattered throughout

The Holy Scriptures to me are encyclopaedic in nature, highly symbolised and the references to those days are at a “high” level

it is hard to condense the thoughts into writing or explain when I’m well aware that the things I am seeing in the writings are “reading between the lines” and there are so many of them, so you will have to bear with me
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Old 07-29-2021, 02:12 PM
 
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You are actually the first person I have come across who seems to be “seeing” what I “see” at this “level”
I see those timing phrases all through Scripture as well (and have done for a long time) and yes I believe John is that centre (heartbeat) his gospel starts from the beginning (Genesis)

At that time.... in those days..... until this day

But with me its not just the timing that “jumps” out, it will also be types and colours and names and regions, etc and also what I see it is not limited to the Holy Scriptures but is “seeded” in all the early religious, theological, philosophical writings

My reading has taken me to a diverse range of material, early church writings and the Ancient Greek, Roman writers and I find the same signals, signs, words, concepts scattered throughout

The Holy Scriptures to me are encyclopaedic in nature, highly symbolised and the references to those days are at a “high” level

it is hard to condense the thoughts into writing or explain when I’m well aware that the things I am seeing in the writings are “reading between the lines” and there are so many of them, so you will have to bear with me
You aren't wrong to"read between the lines," Meerkat.
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Old 07-29-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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How is it that outside of the historical Orthodox Church narrative (accepted by all Christian denominations, no matter how anti-Vatican they are) there is not a single shred of evidence that anyone named Paul wrote any letters to any Christian communities or that they received such letters. For that matter there isn't a shred of evidence that any such communities even existed anywhere in the 1st century OUTSIDE of the Church's one-sided narrative of history.
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Old 07-29-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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How is it that outside of the historical Orthodox Church narrative (accepted by all Christian denominations, no matter how anti-Vatican they are) there is not a single shred of evidence that anyone named Paul wrote any letters to any Christian communities or that they received such letters. For that matter there isn't a shred of evidence that any such communities even existed anywhere in the 1st century OUTSIDE of the Church's one-sided narrative of history.
That’s not the topic of this thread
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Old 07-29-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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You aren't wrong to"read between the lines," Meerkat.
Reading between the lines is the realm of Spirit. One can focus on the red letters and black letters, and completely miss the white spaces where the Living God speaks in wind words of His life.
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Old 07-29-2021, 03:44 PM
 
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let us try example of reading of Paul's . Say Romans 1:
'Servant of Christ Jesus' indicates that letter addressed to pneumatic element of 1 Cor 2,
Paul, chosen apostle, 'Jesus Christ our Lord; -this part indicates addressing to 'natural' element
of 1 Cor 2. 'including you who are called to belong to Jesus Christ,' - still addressed to 'natural' element. 'saint' indicates pneumatic element. "I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I mention you
'I thank my God through Jesus Christ' again addressed to natural element, that lacks of spirit. -
'impart to you some spiritual gift to strengthen you—'
we may be mutually' both natural and spiritual elements..., e.t.c. reading Paul.
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Old 07-29-2021, 04:08 PM
 
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The thread assumes the veracity of the letters and teachings of Paul. Yet there is no evidence that it is factual at all. That's all I meant to say.
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