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I am drawn to timing, placement and relationships in the Scriptures and this is something I am drawn to at the moment
Rom 1:7**To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom 16:24**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
1Co 1:3**Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 16:23**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
2Co 1:2**Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
2Co 13:14**The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.
Gal 1:3**Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Gal 6:18**Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.
Eph 1:2**Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph 6:23**Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph 6:24**Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.
Php 1:2**Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Php 4:23**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Col 1:2**To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col 4:18**The salutation by the hand of me Paul. Remember my bonds. Grace be with you. Amen.
1Th 1:1**Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Th 5:28**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Etc, etc
And in Johns revelation we have this
Rev 22:12**And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13**I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14**Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For me quality is the highest, the first/priority to be striven for, sought after - that has been “formulated” for others to build upon, in their own “generations”
Mat 1:21**And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Mat 1:22**Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Mat 1:23**Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Hi Meerkat. Pertaining to the verses concerning Paul what exactly are you being drawn to? Is it the fact that Paul is expressing God's grace and/or peace to the recipients of his letters? How does timing and placement apply to these verses? I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to convey.
Hi Meerkat. Pertaining to the verses concerning Paul what exactly are you being drawn to? Is it the fact that Paul is expressing God's grace and/or peace to the recipients of his letters? How does timing and placement apply to these verses? I'm just trying to understand what you are trying to convey.
It’s actually hard for some things to be put in words
Yes it does have to do with the grace and peace which is to the churches that are built upon the rock
And which is set apart or “dedicated” for Gods work in creation
And the timing and placement has to with us collectively (Jews, gentile, Romans, barbarian, etc) correctly understanding/seeing/perceiving the dimensional nature of the kingdom which is composite, the same as individuals are composite spirit/flesh having soul
It’s actually hard for some things to be put in words
Yes it does have to do with the grace and peace which is to the churches that are built upon the rock
And which is set apart or “dedicated” for Gods work in creation
And the timing and placement has to with us collectively (Jews, gentile, Romans, barbarian, etc) correctly understanding/seeing/perceiving the dimensional nature of the kingdom which is composite, the same as individuals are composite spirit/flesh having soul
While God has always been gracious to mankind . . . the word 'lovingkindness' in the Old Testament seems to characterize God's grace, God's grace is more clearly seen in the New Testament. The Bible actually alludes to different categories of grace. Common grace which all people, whether believers or not are the recipients of, grace pertaining to the believer, and greater grace for those who advance to or are advancing to spiritual maturity.
The way my first pastor-teacher explained it was that grace is the attitude and policy of God toward fallen mankind made possible by Jesus' work on the cross. Because of Jesus' redemptive work on the cross God is free to express his grace toward a fallen race without compromising his perfect character. I still see it that way.
Don't forget 'church.' Jews and Gentiles are two different peoples, and 'church' is yet another people which is composed of both Jews and Gentiles . . .a new creation . . .a new man. And I think that would fit into your view of timing and placement in that it involves the concept of different dispensations in human history. The biblical revelation that God deals with different peoples (Gentiles, Jews, Church) in different ways at different times in human history. First there were Gentiles, then there were Jews, and now there is Church. Church doesn't permanently replace Israel, but for now the Church is on the front burner as it were, but Israel has a future in which it will be at the forefront in the future Millennial kingdom which Jesus will establish when he returns.
I don't know how much you agree with the above, but that's the way I understand it.
While God has always been gracious to mankind . . . the word 'lovingkindness' in the Old Testament seems to characterize God's grace, God's grace is more clearly seen in the New Testament. The Bible actually alludes to different categories of grace. Common grace which all people, whether believers or not are the recipients of, grace pertaining to the believer, and greater grace for those who advance to or are advancing to spiritual maturity.
The way my first pastor-teacher explained it was that grace is the attitude and policy of God toward fallen mankind made possible by Jesus' work on the cross. Because of Jesus' redemptive work on the cross God is free to express his grace toward a fallen race without compromising his perfect character. I still see it that way.
Don't forget 'church.' Jews and Gentiles are two different peoples, and 'church' is yet another people which is composed of both Jews and Gentiles . . .a new creation . . .a new man. And I think that would fit into your view of timing and placement in that it involves the concept of different dispensations in human history. The biblical revelation that God deals with different peoples (Gentiles, Jews, Church) in different ways at different times in human history. First there were Gentiles, then there were Jews, and now there is Church. Church doesn't permanently replace Israel, but for now the Church is on the front burner as it were, but Israel has a future in which it will be at the forefront in the future Millennial kingdom which Jesus will establish when he returns.
I don't know how much you agree with the above, but that's the way I understand it.
You have at least one person who agrees with you, Michael. That is exactly how I see it.
While God has always been gracious to mankind . . . the word 'lovingkindness' in the Old Testament seems to characterize God's grace, God's grace is more clearly seen in the New Testament. The Bible actually alludes to different categories of grace. Common grace which all people, whether believers or not are the recipients of, grace pertaining to the believer, and greater grace for those who advance to or are advancing to spiritual maturity.
The way my first pastor-teacher explained it was that grace is the attitude and policy of God toward fallen mankind made possible by Jesus' work on the cross. Because of Jesus' redemptive work on the cross God is free to express his grace toward a fallen race without compromising his perfect character. I still see it that way.
Don't forget 'church.' Jews and Gentiles are two different peoples, and 'church' is yet another people which is composed of both Jews and Gentiles . . .a new creation . . .a new man. And I think that would fit into your view of timing and placement in that it involves the concept of different dispensations in human history. The biblical revelation that God deals with different peoples (Gentiles, Jews, Church) in different ways at different times in human history. First there were Gentiles, then there were Jews, and now there is Church. Church doesn't permanently replace Israel, but for now the Church is on the front burner as it were, but Israel has a future in which it will be at the forefront in the future Millennial kingdom which Jesus will establish when he returns.
I don't know how much you agree with the above, but that's the way I understand it.
I see it pretty much the same way Mike
Different administrations and levels pertaining to the one kingdom
I am drawn to timing, placement and relationships in the Scriptures and this is something I am drawn to at the moment
Rom 1:7**To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom 16:24**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
1Co 1:3**Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Co 16:23**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
2Co 1:2**Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
2Co 13:14**The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.
Gal 1:3**Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Gal 6:18**Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen.
Eph 1:2**Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph 6:23**Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph 6:24**Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.
Php 1:2**Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Php 4:23**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Col 1:2**To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col 4:18**The salutation by the hand of me Paul. Remember my bonds. Grace be with you. Amen.
1Th 1:1**Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Th 5:28**The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Etc, etc
And in Johns revelation we have this
Rev 22:12**And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13**I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14**Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For me quality is the highest, the first/priority to be striven for, sought after - that has been “formulated” for others to build upon, in their own “generations”
Mat 1:21**And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Mat 1:22**Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Mat 1:23**Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
I do see the church is a major part of the creation of God
That is my focus on this thread
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