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Old 08-10-2021, 02:07 PM
 
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The true purpose of the Bible is "control" of the masses.
I suppose to say murder ( thou shall Not kill ) is control then so be it.
If everyone lived by the Golden Rule what would Earth be like today __________

I find the ' true purpose ' is found in Jesus' New commandment found at John 13:34-35
We are to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus has.
In other words, we are now to love neighbor MORE than self, more than the Golden Rule of Lev. 19:18.
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Old 08-10-2021, 02:13 PM
 
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Always.
Two questions:
1) What was Constantine the Emperor of in the 1400s?
2) Which books were thrown out?

To which Constantine are you referring __________
In the 300's more-or-less Christendom was ' born '. ( so-called Christian but mostly in name only )
Books thrown out or excluded ?
Because the apocryphal books are out of harmony with the Bible's harmonious '66' Bible books is why the apocryphal books simply exclude themselves.
They do Not have the corresponding cross reference verses and passages as the harmonious ' 66' Bible books have.
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Old 08-10-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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The Bible was rewritten in the 1400s by emperor Constantine's priests, that is a historical fact. Several books were thrown out.
Wrong era for Constantine was a Roman emperor from 306-337 CE
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Old 08-10-2021, 02:19 PM
 
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Is the Bible absolute? Yes it's absolute - but on what basis?
If people are going to judge the Bible based on a law or two, or a small snipet here and there without and context, then there will be no hope of understanding the true purpose of the Bible.
Jesus was the end of the temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law for ancient Israel - Romans 10:4.
Jesus gave a replacement or a NEW commandment found at John 13:34-35 to have self-sacrificing love for others as he has.
Jesus gave the ' true purpose ' in that ' pure worship ' is the main theme - John 4:23-24.
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Old 08-10-2021, 02:52 PM
 
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Is the Bible absolute?

Yes it's absolute - but on what basis?

If people are going to judge the Bible based on a law or two, or a small snipet here and there without any context, then there will be no hope of understanding the true purpose of the Bible.
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The true purpose of the Bible is "control" of the masses.
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Jesus was the end of the temporary Constitution of the Mosaic Law for ancient Israel - Romans 10:4.
Jesus gave a replacement or a NEW commandment found at John 13:34-35 to have self-sacrificing love for others as he has.
Jesus gave the ' true purpose ' in that ' pure worship ' is the main theme - John 4:23-24.
IMO - the overall purpose of the Bible is to reveal God to Us (His human creations), and reveal how He has provided a means by which we can relate to Him eternally.

There is NO other tangible means by which He has directly revealed Himself to the world.
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Old 08-10-2021, 03:22 PM
 
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See there was a law of Moses that it is a curse that a man hang on a tree overnight from Deuteronomy 21:23......... so When they murdered Jesus He broke that law by hanging Jesus on the tree for even longer period. So Jesus became a curse by the law of Moses, so the followers of Jesus have overruled the law that Moses wrote, and the law of Moses does not legally apply to Christians .......... Maybe you should ask the people of Judaism forum this one
Where did you get the idea that Jesus hung on the cross overnight? This thread is full of crazy ideas.
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Old 08-10-2021, 03:24 PM
 
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There is NO other tangible means by which He has directly revealed Himself to the world.
What about the Incarnation???

God literally became one of us. He took on human flesh and walked amongst us.

That's a pretty profound and tangible revelation if you ask me. Much more profound and tangible than words on a page.

As an aside, the written Word is not direct revelation, but indirect since they were not penned or dictated by God Himself.

The Incarnation however, is direct revelation.
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Old 08-10-2021, 03:34 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Where did you get the idea that Jesus hung on the cross overnight? This thread is full of crazy ideas.
You should read what he wrote
He didn’t say Jesus hung on the cross over night .... he said Jesus was hung on the cross for a longer time

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See there was a law of Moses that it is a curse that a man hang on a tree overnight from Deuteronomy 21:23......... so When they murdered Jesus He broke that law by hanging Jesus on the tree for even longer period. So Jesus became a curse by the law of Moses, so the followers of Jesus have overruled the law that Moses wrote, and the law of Moses does not legally apply to Christians .......... Maybe you should ask the people of Judaism forum this one
Not that I agree with everything hljc writes
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Old 08-10-2021, 03:38 PM
 
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I believe I've seen this before, but it never ceases to amuse me.
all those problems are left behind 2000+ years ago...
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Old 08-10-2021, 04:02 PM
 
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What about the Incarnation???

God literally became one of us. He took on human flesh and walked amongst us.

That's a pretty profound and tangible revelation if you ask me. Much more profound and tangible than words on a page.

As an aside, the written Word is not direct revelation, but indirect since they were not penned or dictated by God Himself.

The Incarnation however, is direct revelation.
OK - I was thinking in terms of today - you are right about the incarnation.

You could say that He came more for sacrificial purposes than revelation purposes - but I wouldn't argue either way.

I consider God's word as direct - as those who wrote were directed by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21) who is One with the Father.
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