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Old 08-10-2021, 08:39 AM
 
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I thought I had posted a question on this last year but not finding it.
A couple on ladies came to our door last year. They had a brochure showing a verse in the Bible that says there is no heaven as we perceive it. I think, not sure, it was in Genesis. Anyone aware of it? Thanks.
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Old 08-10-2021, 12:48 PM
 
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That there is a heaven as we perceive it should be evident in such verses as Colossians 1:5 and 1 Peter 1:4.
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:05 PM
 
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That there is a heaven as we perceive it should be evident in such verses as Colossians 1:5 and 1 Peter 1:4.
How about a description and location care to elaborate?
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:17 PM
 
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How about a description and location care to elaborate?
Revelation 21 and 22.
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:21 PM
 
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I thought I had posted a question on this last year but not finding it.
A couple on ladies came to our door last year. They had a brochure showing a verse in the Bible that says there is no heaven as we perceive it. I think, not sure, it was in Genesis. Anyone aware of it? Thanks.
I can think of a Scripture in Revelation that shows Heaven is Not perceived as most people are taught.
No one was called to Heaven who died before Jesus died - John 3:13
Those called to Heaven (Rev. 2:10) have two (2) jobs to do according to Revelation 5:9-10.
* They will serve mankind living on Earth as kings ( taking care of governmental responsibilities )
* They will serve mankind living on Earth as Priests ( taking care of spiritual duties for people of Earth )

People Not called to Heaven (Rev. 20:6) can gain 'everlasting life' right here on Earth. ( Psalm 37:9-11; Matthew 5:5 )
The majority of people can be part of the humble meek who will inherit the Earth ( earthly realm of God's kingdom )
Excellent heavenly conditions, though Jesus, will exist here on Earth because there will be Healing for earth's nations as per Rev. 22:2.
And even ' enemy death ' will be No more on Earth - 1st Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
Earth will be beautifully paradisical as described in Isaiah 35th chapter.
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:40 PM
 
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That there is a heaven as we perceive it should be evident in such verses as Colossians 1:5 and 1 Peter 1:4.
Yes, I too perceive heaven at Colossians 1:1-5 addressed to and for the 'saints' or 'holy ones' in verse 2
So, the people called to heaven are the ones classed as: saints or holy ones - Daniel 7:18
Whereas, the majority of people (John 3:13) can be like the ' sheep ' at Jesus' coming Glory Time of Matthew 25:37.
'sheep' as to gain ' everlasting life ' on a beautiful paradisical Earth during Jesus' thousand-year reign over Earth.
Whereas, Jesus ' brothers' of Matthew 25:40 to gain that first or earlier resurrection found at Rev. 20:6.
To heavenly reign with Jesus for a thousand years over Earth serving mankind on Earth as kings and priests - Rev. 5:9-10.

The ' you ' found at 1st Peter 1:4 is also being addressed the ones chosen to reign with Christ (Rev. 2:10 ).
Whereas, people like King David will be ' Prince ' on Earth according to Ezekiel 34:24; Isaiah 32:1; Psalm 45:16
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:48 PM
 
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Revelation 21 and 22.
Since there never is death in Heaven, then Rev. 21:4 must be referring to Earth.
The ' tent' (dwelling) of God will be with: Mankind ( Not angels but humans on Earth ) .
'Enemy death' to be No more on Earth - 1st Corinthians 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8.
Since there is No sickness in Heaven then Rev. 22:2 must be referring to Earth.
For there will be ' HEALING ' for earth's nations.
Healing on Earth to the point that No one will say, " I am sick......" - Isaiah 33:24
Earth will be as beautifully described by Isaiah's vivid word picture found in Isaiah's 35th chapter.
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Old 08-10-2021, 06:10 PM
 
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Who knows? We all perceive it differently.
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Old 08-10-2021, 06:13 PM
 
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Revelation 21 and 22.
No.
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Old 08-10-2021, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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A couple on ladies came to our door last year. They had a brochure
I'd only be interested in what silly group came by. Did they have a name? Maybe a trance-like look in their eyes?

That should be reviewed first before moving on to whatever they were trying to say. Probably not worth continuing to that stage.
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