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Old 11-04-2021, 02:02 PM
 
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The thing is, "sin" and "iniquity" are two different words. I believe they have slightly different meanings. It would behoove us to figure out how they differ instead of just assuming they mean the same thing.
"iniquity" , imo, is a more general state of consciousness. It can be manifested in many ways.
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:14 PM
 
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I found this commentary

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/christ...a-bible-study/
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:25 PM
 
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The thing is, "sin" and "iniquity" are two different words. I believe they have slightly different meanings. It would behoove us to figure out how they differ instead of just assuming they mean the same thing.
Sin is a state of mind that is "missing the mark" as far as our spiritual development is concerned or as Paul would say, "It does not edify." Iniquity is a completely opposing state of mind from righteousness or anything spiritual.
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:33 PM
 
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The thing is, "sin" and "iniquity" are two different words. I believe they have slightly different meanings. It would behoove us to figure out how they differ instead of just assuming they mean the same thing.
It appears that an iniquity and sin is like that of shame and guilt, which are two different things.

Psalm 51:5 (using merely as an illustration)
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity (shame), and in sin (guilt) did my mother conceive me.

Unfortunately, people are taught (religiously) to feel ashamed and guilty for various things in their life.
Shame is comparing yourself to others, while guilt would be that of what you did or did not do; behavior.
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:41 PM
 
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Sin is a state of mind that is "missing the mark" as far as our spiritual development is concerned or as Paul would say, "It does not edify." Iniquity is a completely opposing state of mind from righteousness or anything spiritual.


Iniquity seems to be about letting the natural tendency to err or make mistakes to get set into a habitual and perpetual state of sinning/transgressing and not letting that worry us and it gets deliberate - putting our pleasure and wants over what is ethically and morally right

Letting things slide as it were, one thing leading to another to another
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:51 PM
 
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It appears that an iniquity and sin is like that of shame and guilt, which are two different things.

Psalm 51:5 (using merely as an illustration)
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity (shame), and in sin (guilt) did my mother conceive me.

Unfortunately, people are taught (religiously) to feel ashamed and guilty for various things in their life.
Shame is comparing yourself to others, while guilt would be that of what you did or did not do; behavior.
I agree that can be true but it’s not all or nothing and it’s certainly not just “the religious” that do it

It can depend on the context and if we are actually guilty or not

If we are guilty it is appropriate and natural to feel ashamed when we recognise our guilt, then comes repentance/change

But first we need to recognise that guilt

And to me seems we need to be sure we are speaking of the correct context
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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I immediately thought of "Dens of Iniquity" as in actual places you could go to commit sin.

Opium dens, brothels, torture chambers. Or a state of being, rather than a "mistake".

Sin is just when we screw up day-to-day. I think?
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Old 11-04-2021, 02:59 PM
 
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I immediately thought of "Dens of Iniquity" as in actual places you could go to commit sin.

Opium dens, brothels, torture chambers. Or a state of being, rather than a "mistake".

Sin is just when we screw up day-to-day. I think?
Could be
The difference between deliberately premeditated .... and an unintentional error
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Old 11-04-2021, 03:46 PM
 
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I immediately thought of "Dens of Iniquity" as in actual places you could go to commit sin.

Opium dens, brothels, torture chambers. Or a state of being, rather than a "mistake".

Sin is just when we screw up day-to-day. I think?
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Old 11-04-2021, 05:39 PM
 
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From the looks of it "iniquity" is more synonymous with "sinful" than it is with "sin" in that it is a state of being rather than an action.

Whatever it is...it's a really cool word.
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