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Old 03-09-2023, 06:05 AM
 
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Universalism is a lie promising everyone eternal salvation in the eternal kingdom of Christ with the righteous Matt 13:43

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Even though God says some will go into eternal darkness forever Jude 1:13

Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

The word reserved is in the perfect passive indicative, God has made this reservation for them in the past and its true unto this day, its going to be the very opposite of the Kingdom of Light and Glory prepared for the righteous.

Peter another Apostle confirms this Truth for the ungodly 2 Pet 2:17

17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. Same perfect passive indicative verb

Yet the lies of unviversalism denies this ! Please beware of false prophets !
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Old 03-09-2023, 06:14 AM
 
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Universalism is a lie because it opposes election, since election automatically ascertains a non election in its very principle.

Its to deny the remnant according to the election of grace Rom 11:5

Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

To hear universalism explain it, there is no remnant of grace election, everybody is Gods election of grace making Gods word a liar.
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Old 03-09-2023, 06:37 AM
 
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Universalism denies the peculiar Suretyship of Jesus Christ Heb 7:22

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

Now was Jesus made a surety for all mankind without exceptions ? No, for He was made a Surety for a particular Chosen Seed, the Seed of Abraham, for we read in Heb 2:14-17


14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
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Old 03-09-2023, 06:49 AM
 
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Hello, Brightfame. When you answer my questions I will respond to you.

The scriptures say that Jesus was sent to be the Savior of the world.


1 John 4:14
14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world.



1 John 2:2
2 and he -- he is a propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the whole world,
Young’s Literal


I ask you again, if you agree with these scriptures.

God bless.
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Old 03-09-2023, 06:56 AM
 
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Universalism is a lie since it denies Gods anger and hatred for the wicked every day and purposes to cut them off from the earth, so they shall not inherit the New Earth 2 Pet 3:13

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Rev 21:1


And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Isa 66:22

For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

Ps 7:11

11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

Ps 34:16

16 The face of the Lord is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.
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Old 03-09-2023, 07:10 AM
 
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You deny Jesus Christ, His Death for Gods elect appeased God and they are never under Gods Wrath, because Christ bare the Wrath of God for them, in their behalf. Now you say or imply that people under Gods wrath Christ died for them Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

That means if Christ died for them, His death was worthless in appeasing Gods wrath on their behalf.
Sorry to say but you are one lost individual, you ignore any scripture that does not line up with your belief. A perfect example of this is when you said all sinners were of Satan’s seed and when Shanna pointed out Paul said he was the chief of sinner what did we hear from you, crickets.

I will waste no more time with you.
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Old 03-09-2023, 07:13 AM
 
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It is à waste of time to interact with this person, pneuma. God will take care of it. Moving on. God bless.
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Old 03-09-2023, 07:20 AM
 
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What is the scriptures definition of wrath? The law, for the law worketh wrath.

The law has no power over those in Christ

What is the law? It is a ministration of death, it is a schoolmasters that leads to Christ.
Yes. God bless
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Old 03-09-2023, 11:02 AM
 
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Sorry to say but you are one lost individual, you ignore any scripture that does not line up with your belief. A perfect example of this is when you said all sinners were of Satan’s seed and when Shanna pointed out Paul said he was the chief of sinner what did we hear from you, crickets.

I will waste no more time with you.
Its impossible for anyone Christ died for and propitiated Gods wrath 1 Jn 2:2 on their behalf, to be under Gods as these Jn 3:36 Thats a total disrepect for Christs appeasing death.

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A perfect example of this is when you said all sinners were of Satan’s seed
Thats a lie ! Show were I stated, posted that all sinners are satan seed, liar
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Old 03-09-2023, 11:08 AM
 
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It is à waste of time to interact with this person, pneuma. God will take care of it. Moving on. God bless.
Thats right, you cant answer it. The sinners Christ died for, while they are enemies/unbelivers Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

But other unbelievers the wrath of God is abiding on them Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Now explain that please
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