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View Poll Results: Christians: do you think it is a sin to vote for Barack Obama?
Yes 49 26.49%
No 136 73.51%
Voters: 185. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-05-2008, 07:36 AM
 
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Jesus' ministry was centered around the needy. The sick. The poor. And the helpless. If, as a Christian, you strive to live a Christlike life you need to ask yourself which candidate is more apt to implement policies that will help the suffering of your fellow man. In all likelyhood, based on past Presidents, that would be a Democrat. But on the other hand a Democrat is more apt to appoint Supreme Court justices that will uphold Roe v Wade and the right to an abortion. It really is a catch 22. But I feel that the good Democrats will do for those needier than I far outweighs what they will do about 1 single issue such as abortion. If you vote for a candidate after truly giving it some thought and you think you are doing the right thing for your fellow man. How could that be a sin?
If you think some social issues far out weight the life of a child then this is a sad day for our country. Just consider the German death camps, and think how the world could not understand such evil. Then think how God must look at what is going on here in America. Only Americans have killed countless millions more than Hitlers death camps ever did. If there is a sin in the Bible that is most grevious to God, it would be the sheading of innocent blood. And that is why God tells us, that (no murderer) will enter the Kingdom of God. The Democrats that support the killing mills will have a lot to answer for. And God tells us, that in the day He returns, many will come before Him and will say, Lord, Lord, look at all the great things we have done in your name, and God will look at them and say, depart from me, I never knew you. The Bible is clear on abortion, "thou shall not murder". And murder is a sin, and those who support such a pratice will have no place in God's Kingdom.

 
Old 09-05-2008, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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if you really had a belief in christianity you would confirm god's teachings. "thou shall not murder" and if you think you will be standing by god's side someday, and smiling, you better think again. Because it was jesus christ who said, "no murder will enter the kingdom of god". This is not about what i believe, nor is it my judgement. This belief is expressed in the scriptures. Jesus tells us we cannot serve two masters. You cannot support murder in one breath, and in the second breath tell us how you will be standing next to god smiling. If my great, great, grandfather believed as you do, he never would of fought against slavery. If his belief was anything like yours, he would of been saying he was not going to judge those slave owners or force his will on them. And if everyone believed back then as you do today, slavery would still exist. And if half the country thinks abortion is ok, then yes, half of our nation is truly evil. Because it is the bible that tells us that no murders will enter the kingdom of god. My grandfather saw the evil and laid his life on the line to stop it. You see the evil, and just want to look the other way. Your right, i would not agree with your belief, but then again i'm in good company, because the god of the bible does not agree with your belief either.
nope..still nothing!you are wasting your breath. Tell you what let god do his job and you just pray for me and i'll pray for you!!
 
Old 09-05-2008, 06:01 PM
 
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Planned Parenthood killing more with your moneyOn June 6, we commemorated the anniversary of the D-Day invasion of Normandy and other sites during World War II. It was a bloody day in the annals of war as the allied forces hit the beaches and were met with stiff resistance from a well fortified German army. Thousands died.

On that same day, Planned Parenthood Federation of America posted to its web site its 2005-2006 annual report. Opening to page four of the Planned Parenthood report, we find that 264,943 died by medical or surgical abortion in Planned Parenthood's facilities during 2005. That's 5,095 a week — as many each week as the highest estimates of allied forces deaths on D-Day.

Planned Parenthood reported a total income of $902.8 million dollars. That is a record number for the organization, but is a modest 2.4 percent increase from the year before. In contrast, Planned Parenthood reported total revenue increases of 10.7 percent, 5.7 percent and 8.9 percent in its previous three years.

Once again, Planned Parenthood took in much more money than it needed. It reported "excess of revenue of expenses" of $55.8 million for the fiscal year. This marks the 34th year in a row that Planned Parenthood has reported "excess revenue" — otherwise known as profit. Over the years, Planned Parenthood has reported total profits of over $700 million. It has amassed a treasure chest of assets worth $839.8 million.

A review of Planned Parenthood's reports through the years shows that its revenue comes from three main sources: fees charged at its clinics; donations from corporations, foundations and individuals; and taxpayer money received from government grants and contracts. A brief look at each of these in the latest reports reveals some interesting information.

Planned Parenthood's clinic income comes from fees charged to its customers. It reported a total clinic income for 2005-2006 of $345.1 million dollars. The significant thing about this year's clinic income is that it was $1.5 million less than last year. We estimate that $112.6 million ( 32.5 percent) comes from abortion.

Is this really helping women or is it more of a profit for Planned Parenthood, at the cost of taxpayers and possibly the loss of the womens life and defiantly the loss of a child.
 
Old 09-06-2008, 06:02 AM
 
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nope..still nothing!you are wasting your breath. Tell you what let god do his job and you just pray for me and i'll pray for you!!
It is God's desire that His people obey His commandments. If I am wasting my breath, then you must have decided to oppose His comandments. On the day you stand before Him, God will do His job. And sadly, many will be cast into the lake of fire, because of their support for legalized muder. And when that happens, all the prayers in the world will not be able to help them, for it is a punishment for life eternal. A sad day is coming for so many.
 
Old 09-06-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Campbell34
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If I am wasting my breath, then you must have decided to oppose His comandments.
Since when is Campbell34 another name for God?
And if my assumption that Campbell34 isn't God, isn't he using God's name in vain?
It seems obvious to me that this is the main reason why Christianity has so many denominations; there are just too many 'Christians' who claim to be God's personal mouthpiece.
 
Old 09-06-2008, 10:32 AM
 
Location: US
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I am no fan of the war, but I have to put things in perspective. For example, see this article below where it shows that illegal immigrants have killed more Americans than the war in Iraq. I realize it's a GOP article, but I haven't found anything to say the contrary, and I have looked.

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says -- GOPUSA (http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/february/0222_illegals_report.shtml - broken link)


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Well at least you are willing to admit that Bush is as much of a sinner as the women who choose to have an abortion. After all, he did get thousands of innocent Iraqis and thousands of Americans killed with his lies and deceptions.
 
Old 09-06-2008, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I am no fan of the war, but I have to put things in perspective. For example, see this article below where it shows that illegal immigrants have killed more Americans than the war in Iraq. I realize it's a GOP article, but I haven't found anything to say the contrary, and I have looked.

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says -- GOPUSA (http://www.gopusa.com/news/2007/february/0222_illegals_report.shtml - broken link)
More college students die from drug overdose and binge drinking each yr. than in the Iraq war as well.http://www.collegedrinkingprevention...agandprev.aspx



godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 09-06-2008, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by carolac
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I realize it's a GOP article, but I haven't found anything to say the contrary, and I have looked.
So Obama also gets blamed for the murder rate in the US?
How about the fact that serial killers are mostly intelligent white men?
Who can I pin this 1 on?

Would it be racist of Obama if he as a black American claimed that it is the white man's fault (read: McCain's fault) that America has the most serial killers in the world?

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ers_by_country
 
Old 09-06-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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It is God's desire that His people obey His commandments. If I am wasting my breath, then you must have decided to oppose His comandments. On the day you stand before Him, God will do His job. And sadly, many will be cast into the lake of fire, because of their support for legalized muder. And when that happens, all the prayers in the world will not be able to help them, for it is a punishment for life eternal. A sad day is coming for so many.
keep going..It obviously makes you feel better so go ahead..
 
Old 09-06-2008, 07:24 PM
 
Location: US
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"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said."
- William F. Buckley, Jr.

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Originally Posted by carolac So Obama also gets blamed for the murder rate in the US?
How about the fact that serial killers are mostly intelligent white men?
Who can I pin this 1 on?

Would it be racist of Obama if he as a black American claimed that it is the white man's fault (read: McCain's fault) that America has the most serial killers in the world?

Source: List of serial killers by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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