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Old 07-25-2008, 07:27 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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I agree in theory..but I also think this sets up the stage for a one-world religion. Their thinking IMHO of course...religion divides-If there was no religion..or just one religion for everyone, there would be less conflict. So guess what..saying Jesus is THE only way to heaven in that time could get you chunked in jail for all sorts of slanders and discriminations.
Amen, Arguy!! Or worse.
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:28 AM
 
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So guess what..saying Jesus is THE only way to heaven in that time could get you chunked in jail for all sorts of slanders and discriminations.
Interesting. (and accurate I believe)

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Old 07-25-2008, 07:38 AM
 
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I agree in theory..but I also think this sets up the stage for a one-world religion. Their thinking IMHO of course...religion divides-If there was no religion..or just one religion for everyone, there would be less conflict. So guess what..saying Jesus is THE only way to heaven in that time could get you chunked in jail for all sorts of slanders and discriminations.
I don't see that quote as leading to a one world religion..I see it as leading putting our difference in belief aside, and all working together to end the poverty the suffering of mankind, and the problems with the world economics and ecologic things happening now that threaten to eventually destroy us anyway..
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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I don't see that quote as leading to a one world religion..I see it as leading putting our difference in belief aside, and all working together to end the poverty the suffering of mankind, and the problems with the world economics and ecologic things happening now that threaten to eventually destroy us anyway..
And that my dear Blue is true blindness to what the Scripture says about the end times. In the end there will be one who brings peace to the world. Could it be Obama? Not sure, and not saying it is or isn't. It's interesting to watch and see how this all plays out. If we're wrong, sobeit. If we're right...well hold on to your Bible because that will be the only truth left in this world.
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Old 07-25-2008, 07:56 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I honestly don't think you can have a one world government of 6 billion+ people. We can barely get along as it is as separate countries. If it ever did come to pass it would be short lived.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:03 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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I have a very strong feeling that Sen. Obama will be our next president and he will wind up being one of the best just as young JFK proved to be
If Obama becomes the next president of America I only hope that his presidency won't end up like JFK's.
Some people are convinced that they have the right to make these kind of undemocratic decisions ( read: assassinations) for the 'good' of their nation.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:13 AM
 
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I'm not blind to the forces of evil in the world, but it seems many Christians get caught up in the 'end times' scenario and lose their grip on reality, OR think we are in an inevitable slide toward an evil one world empire.

IMO we should simply keep being salt and light and see what happens instead of assuming the entire horror of the revelation is literal and is lying in wait. Decades of predictions by end-time doom and gloom 'prophets' have failed and been modified to suite the next wave of sensational book sales.
Wow, firstborn.. finally something we can agree on!

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So guess what..saying Jesus is THE only way to heaven in that time could get you chunked in jail for all sorts of slanders and discriminations.
I definitely see this type of thing happening.. the foundation is laid already. It's part of the prophecy we do have about the falling away in the "last days".

I just don't think that the "one-world government", "anti-christ", "war of gog and magog" etc interpretations are anywhere near correct. Revelations by-and-large has not much to do with the future literal happenings, other than the return of Christ, subsequent judgment, and eternal destinies.

As firstborn was saying, much time, effort, thought, and money is being put into intellectual study, mankind trying to prophecy and figure out what exactly is going to happen.. when all that time and effort would be much better put toward studying the clear teachings and directions of the Bible. If this would be done, a lot of the other stuff would fall into place.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:30 AM
 
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And that my dear Blue is true blindness to what the Scripture says about the end times.
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Originally Posted by blue62 If Obama becomes the next president of America I only hope that his presidency won't end up like JFK's.
Example of why I do not mix politics and religion..."Blind Blue"
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Example of why I do not mix politics and religion..."Blind Blue"
Dear "BB", how can they not be mixed? If you live your faith, then all of your decisions and choices would be made through a Christian worldview. These decisions would include political decisions as well.
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:08 AM
 
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Dear "BB", how can they not be mixed? If you live your faith, then all of your decisions and choices would be made through a Christian worldview.
The thing is that Christians themselves are able to have mixed (read: individual) thoughts & feelings, thus the worldview of each Christian can be different.
Maybe the general Christian goals are compatible amongst Christians, but the way how to achieve them might be very different for each Christian.
For example the commandment Thou shalt not kill,
Every Christian might agree that they should obey this commandment (= is a religious theory), but there are Christians who find nothing wrong with killing in self-defence (= is a political philosophy).
Jesus himself never killed anyone in self-defence so where do those Christians who believe that they are allowed to kill in self-defence base their opinion on?
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