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1John 4:15-16
Who ever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
Now how can a person who abides in Gods love and God abides in him loose that love and kill themselves?
AND show me those documented cases of a believer who abides in Gods love and God abides in him that committed suicide because of the fear of hell?
If you have read and know of documented cases.....then produce them!
Or your statement is deceptive! Because if this is suppose to be true you can back up your statement!
Again, you didn't read my post Latte'Chic. God bless.
Again, you didn't read my post Latte'Chic. God bless.
Yes I did read you post....and you are stating that a believer in Christ Jesus has committed suicide because of the teaching of hell....
You are avoiding the question I have asked about your statement in your post...... that you have read documented cases and you are not backing up your statement, by showing these cases!!
NOW...........Where are they?????
That is all I'm asking, where are the documented cases? I would really like to read them!
Hi Latte'Chic, maybe you misread my statement. I was saying that many have lost faith because of the teaching of eternal or everlasting hell and many have committed suicide because of the teaching of eternal or everlasting hell. Cases have been documented and I have read accounts of this. Many understand that everlasting torment does not reflect God's agape love or God's omniscience and many do not comprehend how this can be and as a result have lost faith or committed suicide. There are many people also who say that the only reason they have "decided" to come to God is because of the threat of everlasting hell. God bless
Yep....here's your post, now where are the documented cases you have read....I would like to read them!!!
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Originally Posted by ShanaBrown
Hi Latte'Chic, maybe you misread my statement. I was saying that many have lost faith because of the teaching of eternal or everlasting hell and many have committed suicide because of the teaching of eternal or everlasting hell. Cases have been documented and I have read accounts of this. Many understand that everlasting torment does not reflect God's agape love or God's omniscience and many do not comprehend how this can be and as a result have lost faith or committed suicide. There are many people also who say that the only reason they have "decided" to come to God is because of the threat of everlasting hell. God bless.quote]
[quote=Latte'Chic;8944996]Yep....here's your post, now where are the documented cases you have read....I would like to read them!!!
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Originally Posted by ShanaBrown
Hi Latte'Chic, maybe you misread my statement. I was saying that many have lost faith because of the teaching of eternal or everlasting hell and many have committed suicide because of the teaching of eternal or everlasting hell. Cases have been documented and I have read accounts of this. Many understand that everlasting torment does not reflect God's agape love or God's omniscience and many do not comprehend how this can be and as a result have lost faith or committed suicide. There are many people also who say that the only reason they have "decided" to come to God is because of the threat of everlasting hell. God bless.quote]
Like she'll be able to post all of that right here just because you demand it...so since she probably won't be able to do so, since you don't even know when or where she read it, you'll be able to easily disregard what she has said as a lie and continue on in your self-deception. Typical.
Like she'll be able to post all of that right here just because you demand it...so since she probably won't be able to do so, since you don't even know when or where she read it, you'll be able to easily disregard what she has said as a lie and continue on in your self-deception. Typical.
No, she doesn't have to show every case.....but if she wasn't lying she would have been able to show proof of her statement of the documented cases, instead of avoiding the question!! Like she is doing....that is deception! One should not make such statements unless they are true!!
A true believer in Christ Jesus, will not commit suicide because of the love of God that abides in their heart and they have been delivered from all fear!!
1John 4:17-18
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
1John 4:15-16
Who ever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
Blessings
Last edited by Cyber Munchkin; 05-23-2009 at 08:24 AM..
No, she doesn't have to show every case.....but if she wasn't lying she would have been able to show proof of her statement instead of avoiding the question!! Like she is doing....that is deception!
You seem to be self-deluded, IMHO. I have also read stuff like what she is saying but I couldn't tell you where I read it, since it's been a couple of years. She has not been avoiding the question and I think you are being more deceptive in that even if she did find that info you obviously would disregard it. You're full of insults and a belittling attitude towards us both.
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