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easy no brainer
dont wana die at 33 like him.
dont wana sleep under a bridge or in a park like he did
he got declared the son of god, most will not even remember my name when i am gone.
Eusebius how are we not serving the Lord when we say Jesus came to save mankind? and how does that verse apply to anything since we all go to heaven?
You do not believe nor teach that "we all go to heaven."
It is not just a matter of telling people that Christ came to save mankind. If you taught that God will save all mankind and in fact is the saviour of all mankind, you and those of your persuasion would not be fighting the injunction to charge and teach these things.
You in fact teach God is not all mankind's Saviour, just the believer. You in fact teach God will not save all mankind, just believers. Paul tells us to teach God will save all mankind and is the Saviour of all mankind ESPECIALLY of the believer. "Especially" does not mean exclusively.
I do know that based on your other threads you hold to some heretical views, so I don't much care to read and analyze this one. Sorry.
kdbrich, just read 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11 noting the instruction in verse 11. Then ask yourself, Why do I call Jesus my Lord when I teach the opposite of what He tells me to teach?
kdbrich, just read 1 Timothy 2:4-6 and 4:10,11 noting the instruction in verse 11. Then ask yourself, Why do I call Jesus my Lord when I teach the opposite of what He tells me to teach?
I don't teach the opposite. Christ is the savior of all people who believe. That's what verse 10 says.
You do not believe nor teach that "we all go to heaven."
It is not just a matter of telling people that Christ came to save mankind. If you taught that God will save all mankind and in fact is the saviour of all mankind, you and those of your persuasion would not be fighting the injunction to charge and teach these things.
You in fact teach God is not all mankind's Saviour, just the believer. You in fact teach God will not save all mankind, just believers. Paul tells us to teach God will save all mankind and is the Saviour of all mankind ESPECIALLY of the believer. "Especially" does not mean exclusively.
Do I understand your question correctly?
Eusebius
But Eusebius we do that and we we say you must repent and trust in Him? Eusebius when Jesus said. He is the ONLY way, that made the gospel exclusive not us.
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Originally Posted by Eusebius You do not believe nor teach that "we all go to heaven."
It is not just a matter of telling people that Christ came to save mankind. If you taught that God will save all mankind and in fact is the saviour of all mankind, you and those of your persuasion would not be fighting the injunction to charge and teach these things.
You in fact teach God is not all mankind's Saviour, just the believer. You in fact teach God will not save all mankind, just believers. Paul tells us to teach God will save all mankind and is the Saviour of all mankind ESPECIALLY of the believer. "Especially" does not mean exclusively.
Do I understand your question correctly?
Eusebius
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But Eusebius we do that and we we say you must repent and trust in Him? Eusebius when Jesus said. He is the ONLY way, that made the gospel exclusive not us.
He is the ONLY Way all mankind will be saved.
Repentance and trust is the "especially believers" part of 1 Timothy 4:10. God is all mankind's saviour just as He is the believer's saviour. You need to begin to charge and teach this so Jesus will be your Lord.
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Originally Posted by Eusebius You do not believe nor teach that "we all go to heaven."
It is not just a matter of telling people that Christ came to save mankind. If you taught that God will save all mankind and in fact is the saviour of all mankind, you and those of your persuasion would not be fighting the injunction to charge and teach these things.
You in fact teach God is not all mankind's Saviour, just the believer. You in fact teach God will not save all mankind, just believers. Paul tells us to teach God will save all mankind and is the Saviour of all mankind ESPECIALLY of the believer. "Especially" does not mean exclusively.
Do I understand your question correctly?
Eusebius
He is the ONLY Way all mankind will be saved.
Repentance and trust is the "especially believers" part of 1 Timothy 4:10. God is all mankind's saviour just as He is the believer's saviour. You need to begin to charge and teach this so Jesus will be your Lord.
Not without repent and trust. That goes against the very essence of Christianity Eusebius.
I'm not sure how Eusebius interprets this verse...
Matthew 7:13-14... "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
...but it sounds like the many of you who are fundamentalists far outnumber the few such as MysticPhd and Eusebius, so I can't help but wonder who TRULY is on that narrow path headed for the strait gate. I'm really beginning to think as though you feel it's your duty to conduct your own personal inquisition of him and those who disagree with you. So tell me....when do I see the stakes erected and the flames lit?
I'm not sure how Eusebius interprets this verse...
Matthew 7:13-14... "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
...but it sounds like the many of you who are fundamentalists far outnumber the few such as MysticPhd and Eusebius, so I can't help but wonder who TRULY is on that narrow path headed for the strait gate. I'm really beginning to think as though you feel it's your duty to conduct your own personal inquisition of him and those who disagree with you. So tell me....when do I see the stakes erected and the flames lit?
What? We didn't start this thread plus isn't Eusebius the one creating the inquisition and we are the defenders. He has brought the charge not us? furthermore who cares what we say, what we say is irrelevant. Read your bible. There is the truth.
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Eusebius how are we not serving the Lord when we say Jesus came to save mankind? and how does that verse apply to anything since we all go to heaven?
