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Old 04-01-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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Matt4:4, she gave to her husband also, Adam ate willingly. Since he was told, he will surely die, did he decide, well- if God kills her- I want to be with her , wherever she goes. Acts2:17, pouring out Spirit- prophesy to you the same as preaching? Mention of women at Pentecost? I don't see it. Maybe women Levite's next? Because women in some denominations ie. Episcopal priestesses preach or some baptist women preach doesn't make it right. Userp= dominate. Not scriptural. Matt 28:18-20 Jesus is speaking to his 11 disciples, not giving the great comm. to women. Where is a reference of women preaching to others? Anywhere?
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:05 PM
 
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Matt4:4 you are correct in the procreate timeline. Still, I think women should not preach. Sarah says go into my handmaiden - Ishmael born. Division between the Jews and Muslims until Jesus returns, except for the first 3.5 yrs. of the 7 yr "treaty". Some women have led us astray. Jobs wife , " curse God and die". My point, it was not men that did these things. We have had our sins of course, but these first two women were his-story changers.
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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Matt4:4, Gen 3:17, because thou hast harkened to the voice of thy wife...
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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Matt4:4, we could make a case for eves "future" creation by Gods general statement Gen1:27, male and female created He them. Her explicit creation expanded at Gen 2:21-25. Two accounts, we needn't differ. The directive be fruitful...is before the curse, but now she is told she will desire her husband. No mention they were actually consummated prior. Women is yesteryear called the monthly time - "the curse".
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Old 04-01-2016, 05:42 PM
 
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All sin is *not* the same to God.



Hebrews 10:26-27 clearly states:


“If we practice sin willfully

after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth,

there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left,

but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment and a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition.â€


Several other scriptures harmonize well with that one:


"It would have been better for them not to have accurately known the path of righteousness
than after knowing it to turn away from the holy commandment they had received." (2 Peter 2:21)


"For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him;
but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him,
no, not in this system of things nor in that to come." (Matthew 12:32)


"For as regards those who were once enlightened and who have tasted the heavenly free gift and who have become partakers of holy spirit and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, but have fallen away, it is impossible to revive them again to repentance, because they nail the Son of God to the stake again for themselves and expose him to public shame." (Hebrews 6:4-6)


"If anyone catches sight of his brother committing a sin that does not incur death, he will ask,
and God will give life to him ... to those not committing sin that incurs death. There is a sin that does incur death. It is concerning that sin that I do not tell him to make request." (1 John 5:16)


"The future of wicked people will be cut off." (Psalm 37:38b) "These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of eternal destruction." (2 Thessalonians 1:9)
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:31 PM
 
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The true great transgression is unbelief. From this comes every other sin.
Winner right here......a continual unbelief or rejection of Christ is the "unpardonable" sin.......
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:59 AM
 
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Winner right here......a continual unbelief or rejection of Christ is the "unpardonable" sin.......
"You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder."- James 2:19

Demons believe there is a God and yet they are doomed to destruction are they not? So if a being can believe in God and still be marked as unpardonable that would mean there is greater sin than just disbelief.

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Old 04-04-2016, 08:32 AM
 
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When the High Priest confronted Yeshua, he tore his robe and screamed, "Blasphemy!" Why? Because to his thinking, Yeshua had made Himself equal with G-d.

Blasphemy is when mere men make themselves equal with G-d, meaning they don't recognize HIM AS G-d, and therefore they feel no need for repentance, which brings them UNDER SUBMISSION to G-d, and His Spirit by proxy.

They have blasphemed Him by making THEMSELVES as G-d, which is what anyone does that is not under submission to His Spirit. If you have no realization of the need to repent to a greater than yourself, then you yourself have decided that, YOU ARE THAT GREATER ONE.

And this is why, as long as they maintain that false sense of status quo, there is no forgiveness for them in this life, or the next eon. NOT because He doesn't have forgiveness for them, but they didn't avail themselves of it while they still could in this life. THAT is blaspheming the Holy Spirit, because He is AS GOD IN THE EARTH.

As for why he tore his robe, that is what they did when someone DIED. Which is exactly what happens when we die, our outer garment is torn. Peace

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Old 04-04-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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When the High Priest confronted Yeshua, he tore his robe and screamed, "Blasphemy!" Why? Because to his thinking, Yeshua had made Himself equal with G-d.

Blasphemy is when mere men make themselves equal with G-d, meaning they don't recognize HIM AS G-d, and therefore they feel no need for repentance, which brings them UNDER SUBMISSION to G-d, and His Spirit by proxy.

They have blasphemed Him by making THEMSELVES as G-d, which is what anyone does that is not under submission to His Spirit. If you have no realization of the need to repent to a greater than yourself, then you yourself have decided that YOU ARE THAT GREATER ONE.

And this is why, as long as they maintain that false sense of status quo, there is no forgiveness for them in this life, or the next eon. THAT is blaspheming the Holy Spirit, because He is AS GOD IN THE EARTH.

As for why he tore his robe, that is what they did when someone DIED. Which is exactly what happens when we die, our outer garment is torn. Peace
Indeed, knowingly putting one's own will over that of Jehovah's will on purpose, is the greatest sin. Specifically to purposely do the exact opposite from the one's own heart/desires.

Those that go against God's will but didn't know that they were doing so is forgivable. Paul was one of those people. He was following what he thought was right until he was shown that he was in error. If however, Paul had not changed course or returned to his prior life, then he would have committed an unforgivable sin. Because he would have had accurate knowledge of whom he was harming and who's will he was fighting. Once a person is certain of God's will but then does the opposite...let's just say, don't ever do that. Eat humble pie, repent, ask for God's forgiveness and do whatever it takes to show God that you are on His side. The best way to show we are on His side is by doing what He tells us to do. If we do the opposite then we are poisoning our heart and might poison our heart to the point it is worthless in God's eyes.

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Old 04-06-2016, 11:29 PM
 
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Default What sin is the 'Great Transgression'?

The Holy Spirit is agape love (Who IS God) To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to think and act devoid of agape love. Nothing you do can be acceptable if it is devoid of agape love.
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