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Old 06-24-2009, 07:51 PM
 
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The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 13:41-42).
Hi, this scripture does not say that they will burn forever in hell. The judgments of God have a higher purpose. When His judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants will learn righteousness. (Isaiah 26:9) God bless.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:10 PM
 
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I believe Rev 22:15 corresponds with Matt 8:12. But I don't think we can assume that is "hell".

Notice these verses before and after:

Rev 22:14 "Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.

If one washes their robes (indicating putting on righteousness), they can go to the city. Notice the gates are NOT closed.

Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.


Who is thirsty at this point? Those in the city, or those outside? Those inside already have the tree of life - the living water - Christ. They are not thirsty. It is those who are outside who are thirsty. And the spirit commands them to COME! Anyone may FREELY take the water of life! The gates never close!

Think on this.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:16 PM
 
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Hi, this scripture does not say that they will burn forever in hell. The judgments of God have a higher purpose. When His judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants will learn righteousness. (Isaiah 26:9) God bless.
Yes I am sure they are going to toast marshmallows; the weeping and gnashing of teeth is due to the marshmallows being piping hot
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:20 PM
 
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Weeping and gnashing of teeth does not mean everlasting, eternal torment, Fundy. Many weep and gnash their teeth today due to adversity/pain in their lives. God bless
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:24 PM
 
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Weeping and gnashing of teeth does not mean everlasting, eternal torment, Fundy. Many weep and gnash their teeth today due to adversity/pain in their lives. God bless
um...I don't think so.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:26 PM
 
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You mean you've never seen anybody crying and gnashing their teeth, in anguish because they have been in pain, either physical, mental, or spiritual? I have. God bless.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:35 PM
 
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Yes I am sure they are going to toast marshmallows; the weeping and gnashing of teeth is due to the marshmallows being piping hot
In a way, thats true.

The lost do not get to enter into the next Kingdom,
Rather they burn baby burn....

Now this fact also points out the need of the lost to be in their new bodies of flesh and bone when they get tossed into Hell's buring fire.
A normal human body of flesh and blood would all burn up the moment it landed in the fire.
There would be a short moment of pain, then....nothing..

But a new ever-lasting body of flesh and bone will not burn up atall.
It will last forever, and the burning pain of hell's flame will never end.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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In a way, thats true.

The lost do not get to enter into the next Kingdom,
Rather they burn baby burn....

Now this fact also points out the need of the lost to be in their new bodies of flesh and bone when they get tossed into Hell's buring fire.
A normal human body of flesh and blood would all burn up the moment it landed in the fire.
There would be a short moment of pain, then....nothing..

But a new ever-lsting body of flesh and bone will not burn up atall.
It will last forever, and the burning pain of hell's flame will never end.
Makes no sense, if the atomement is unlimited then there should be no existence of hell, none. Jesus died for all our sins, any existence of hell is double jeopardy
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:45 PM
 
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Makes no sense, if the atomement is unlimited then there should be no existence of hell, none. Jesus died for all our sins, any existence of hell is double jeopardy
?...what?

Im not sure I understand you here...
I dont get the double jeopardy term?
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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But a new ever-lasting body of flesh and bone will not burn up atall.
It will last forever, and the burning pain of hell's flame will never end.
The burning will end when it's purpose is accomplished. Eventually all are to be reunited in Jesus Christ. (Eph.1) God bless.
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