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Old 06-25-2009, 03:12 AM
 
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Then where are these people or souls at?

Maybe this boils down to a physics problem. Since matter can only change form, does this mean even those outside the kingdom will still be there is some fashion?

But no-where does it say they are saved...
After the new jerusalem comes down

Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Describes what a beautiful city it is ...........
Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Rev 21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
Rev 21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Nations are healed after judgement.

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Old 06-25-2009, 04:13 AM
 
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Why do you seem so happy about that? Wow!
There is joy in knowing that the Word is able to be trusted.
That we dont have to worry, that when the bible talks about our endings it is talking about a never-changed ending.

Thus my hope, (and the hope of all Christians) is that our salvation is forever.
That it cant be changed.
That it will not be subject to evolution.
That there is no future where things are yet in doubt.

The hope of Christians is that we can 'know" for sure the fate of our bodies in the everlasting future right here and now.

That the Saved go on to be with the Lord "forever" and ever, just as in the same way the Lost are forever and ever buring in hell...

The faith I have is that God will remember my salvation and welcome me into His Kingdom without a moments hesitation.
Just as He will cast the Lost into ever-burning Hell without a moments hesitation!
the saved will always have joy forever.
The Lost will always burn baby burn...

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Old 06-25-2009, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I think you are totally wrong about that.

The lost get dumped into the fire...and thats it kids!
No change,
no 2nd chance...
no lesson to learn...
no 2nd thoughts...

The lost are not in hell to "Learn their lesson"

Just burn baby burn....forever and ever...and ever...
please give me the verses that say:

the wicked will raise immortal or are already immortal (immortal soul)
God will keep the wicked alive in the fire
they burn for ever AND ever AND ever alive

please give me the Greek expression that means for ever AND ever AND ever, how many "evers" do you think exist?
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:48 AM
 
Location: NC
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The Lost will always burn baby burn...
This does not sound the heart of the Father, who does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked. Jesus died for them too and His death for them will not be in vain. He has been made heir of all men. God bless.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:57 AM
 
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This does not sound the heart of the Father, who does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked. Jesus died for them too and His death for them will not be in vain. He has been made heir of all men. God bless.
actually it never entered God's heart as written in the bible:

Jeremiah 7:31, Green's Literal Translation

They have built the high places of Tophet in the valley of the son of Hinnom (= gehenna, "hell"), to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into My heart.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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Amen, svenM. God bless.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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Looks like 'burn baby burn" could be the right answer!




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Old 06-25-2009, 10:10 AM
 
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All that is evil will not inherit the kingdom. God will destroy all that is evil and eventually those who do not inherit will be subjects of the Kindgom. When all things are subjected to the Son, then the Son will be subject to the one who subjected all to Him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Cor. 15) God bless.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:17 AM
 
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All that is evil will not inherit the kingdom. God will destroy all that is evil and eventually those who do not inherit will be subjects of the Kindgom. When all things are subjected to the Son, then the Son will be subject to the one who subjected all to Him, so that God may be all in all. (1 Cor. 15) God bless.
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God will destroy all that is evil and eventually those who do not inherit will be subjects of the Kindgom.
So what you are saying is that unbelievers are now made to be 'slaves' in the new kingdom? Hmm, sucks for them.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:38 AM
 
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Why would it suck for them, HotinAZ, to be under the dominion, influence, care of their Creator? To be a slave in His kingdom is much better than being a slave in the dominion of darkness. I did not say a slave, yet we are to be slaves of righteousness, (Romans 6:17) I am. God bless.
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