No greater evil than Eternal Torment (Creator, Lord, devil, science)
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I don't find it damaging at all. On the contrary, God gives me peace
Are you saying my mind is damaged? How would you know?
If you are at peace about what yuo believe which is that most of humanity will be tortured for eternity, then there is obviously something wrong, regardless if you admit it or not ...
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If you are a t peace about what yo believe which is that most of humanity will be tortured for eternity, then there is obviously something wrong, regardless if you admit it or not ...
That would only mean that there is something wrong with peace of God, and I don't agree that there is. I am also at peace with the fact that I will one day die, and that is could be painful. Facts of life do not go away by denial.
That would only mean that there is something wrong with peace of God, and I don't agree that there is. I am also at peace with the fact that I will one day die, and that is could be painful. Facts of life do not go away by denial.
Not necessarily ...
If you had a child and you knew that child were being tortured, and you were at peace with that, there would be something wrong with you.
OR your mother, or your father, or your brother, or your sister ...
If you claim to truly love your neighbors as yourself, and if you claim to truly love your enemies, yet you are at peace with the idea of them being tortured for ever, then there is something wrong ...
If you had a child and you knew that child were being tortured, and you were at peace with that, there would be something wrong with you.
Maybe your conscience is seared?
If you say so, but let's leave the judgment to God, shall we? Thanks.
All we can do is pray that people will turn to God, and won't have to face the consequence of dieing in unbelief. Again, denying facts of life will not make them go away. I will die. That is a fact. Do I like the idea of it? No, but I am at peace with it, and it is not something I can change.
Of course there is nothing wrong with the peace of God.
But you don't get that peace by believing in ET.
You get that peace by trusting in Jesus as your Savior, just as we URs do.
No one said you get peace by believeing in ET. I don't know anyone who has faith in ET. ET is the consequence of dieing in sin, and ET can't save anyone, and no one has ever said it could. People have faith in Christ. I said Christ gave me peace, so don't try to twist it as if I said ET gave me peace. Trying to defend you faith by attacking the faith of others is a load of UR nonesense.
Does not the above quote by you infer that believing in ET gives you peace?
Read my words very carefully. This is what I said "God gives me peace". Period. Quit twisting my words, and quit claiming I said something I did not say.
Does not the above quote by you infer that believing in ET gives you peace?
No. How do you get to that conclusion??? I already showed you what I said word for word, so why do you continue with your nonsense? God gave me peace about all matters. Comprende?
Police force gives people a degree of peace. Police catch criminals and they are judged by the courts and are sent to prisons. Does this mean the prison gives people a degree of peace? No, the presence of police force gives them a degree of peace.
Is this difficult to understand? When I showed you my own words, why do you continue to act as if you didn't see them?
why do you continue to act as if you didn't see them?
What I do see is that you believe that the doctrine of ET is true.
But according to a correctly (literally, not interpretively) translated Bible, the doctrine of ET is false.
That's a fact.
Here is the proof.
A great sixteen chapter introductory series to ultimate reconciliation.
J. Preston Eby does a thorough job covering many aspects of the topic.
Fundamental reading for any person interested in studying universalism from a solid biblical perspective.
No. How do you get to that conclusion??? I already showed you what I said word for word, so why do you continue with your nonsense? God gave me peace about all matters. Comprende?
Police force gives people a degree of peace. Police catch criminals and they are judged by the courts and are sent to prisons. Does this mean the prison gives people a degree of peace? No, the presence of police force gives them a degree of peace.
Is this difficult to understand? When I showed you my own words, why do you continue to act as if you didn't see them?
Hi Finn_Jarber, a few questions for you (they are easy Y or N questions):
1.) Do you believe that we are all carnal before we are Spiritual?
2.) Do you believe that those that are carnal can obey God or would even like God?
3.) Do you believe that those that are carnal can be saved?
4.) Do you believe they can be saved by their own works?
5.) Do you believe that someones own works can cause them to be unsaved?
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