Christianity....anything and everything about it!! (crucify, testimony, exodus, priests)
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all people that teach against the trinity will sooner or later have to add their own "corrections" to the Bible to make it fit with what they think it "should" say....
The Jews new EXACTLY what Christ was saying about Himself....that's why they crucified Him. (I believe he even referred to Himself as 'I AM'.)
saying you dont believe in the Trinity because its not in the Bible,, yet then telling me that all the verses in the bible that support the trinity were added later,,,is a silly argument.
"The Trinity is not in the Bible, and so all the hundreds of verses in the bible that do support the Trinity are not supposed to be there....?" That argument is Not a good defense kids....LOL
Actually it's the same thing as telling me that I am right, and that you admit that I am right, and that you do see how the Bible (In its current form) does support my views and not yours.
Your argument is reduced to agreeing that the bible is on my side, but all the stuff in the bible you dont like must have been added by the Catholic church....
I still have yet to see verses that support a Trinity...the Bible doesn't teach it.
I still have yet to see verses that support a Trinity...the Bible doesn't teach it.
If you didnt believe in your heart that the Bible actually did teach the Trinity, then you would not be in such a hurry to find flaws in the Bible translations.
You are clearly looking for a means to escape verses that do hit home hard that the Trinity is true....
as for looking at the verses that do teach the trinity,,,I have already posted them,,,you have read them,,,,
The Jews new EXACTLY what Christ was saying about Himself....that's why they crucified Him. (I believe he even referred to Himself as 'I AM'.)
If you talk to any Jewish people you will see that their idea of the Messiah in the OT was not one who was God in flesh. They think God in flesh would be a violation of everything they are taught about the ONE true God and therefore would not be able to abide in Christianity.
The fact is that the Pharisees and others were BLIND to the truth. You'll notice that when they think Jesus has proclaimed to be God he doesn't even try to refute it. He asks why they think it is a crime to say he is the "SON OF GOD" Then he uses the Psalms passage to reiterated that all prophets were said to be gods and children of God.
Like I am a child of a human so I am a little human. Jesus was a child of God therefore a little god... NOT GOD but a child of God.
John 17 shows that Jesus prays "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me."
Does that mean that all who believe in him are also part of the trinity?
How do you reconcile these words of Jesus praying to God that we are all brothers of Christ and equal to Christ!
yes, the Romans Killed Jesus for the claim he made of being a King
The Jews handed him over to the Romans for his claim of being he Great "I Am"....
Jesus claimed to be God, and for this he was killed.
Sorry but no..
The Jewish leaders handed Jesus over for saying that he would destroy the temple and crush their religious site. There was already trouble between the Jewish leaders and the Romans. Jesus didn't have to be prosecuted by the Sanhedrin if the claim was made that Jesus was going to lead the Jews to overthrow the Roman occupation of the Holy Land. This is what the Jews expected in their Messiah. Jesus was charged with Sedition for saying he was the Messiah (King of the Jews as told by the Jewish High Priests) and the Jews were fine with that because they did not believe he was the Messiah as he promised to destroy the temple.
If the Jews thought Jesus claimed to be GOD in flesh he would have been stoned for blasphemy and the Romans would have cared less.
You can see when Jesus meets the two men after his resurrection, that they fully expected Jesus to lead a revolt against the Romans to break the bondage:
Luke 24:19-21
“What things?” he asked. “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people. The chief priests and our rulers handed him over to be sentenced to death, and they crucified him; but we had hoped that he was the one who was going to redeem Israel. And what is more, it is the third day since all this took place.
In reply, Jesus says this: (Luke 24:25-27)
"He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Christ [Messiah] have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
It was sedition that he was crucified for not for being God in the flesh. It was the erroneous view that he would free the people as Moses had that led to his death. But Jesus shows it was the spiritual that the Messiah came to address and he told them so.
Jesus was a prophet and like all prophets, he spoke and carried the Word of God... He was called Lord, or Teacher, or Master... NEVER GOD.
The Jewish leaders handed Jesus over for saying that he would destroy the temple .
that was one of the charges made against him, but as you should remember, the witnesses did not agree so that point was dropped.
To help you remember why the Jews turned Jesus over to the Romans, just read the part where the High priest rips his clothes....there you have it
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